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Subject: raw minutes from TC call 04/22/08




Dr Martin morphed into Martin C
anonymous morphed into Pete Walker
Mike Edwards: 1. Opening

Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 15th April
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/28035/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-04-15.html

3. Action Items:

2008-04-01-1: Dave Booz to write up the OSGI approach to artifact resolution (Issue


2008-04-01-2: Graham Charters and Michael Rowley to write up their "Compromise" approach to Issue 8

2008-04-15-1: Anish Karmarkar to produce an updated proposal for the resolution of Assembly-14
DONE

4. Artifact URI Proposal from OpenCSA Liaison Committee

Proposal contained in this email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00076.html

5. Updated CD-01 Package for Publication

....following from the Artifact URI proposal in Item 4....

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/28037/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-CD01.zip

5. New Issues

ASSEMBLY-61 Component type information directly in components
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-61

6. Existing Issues

ASSEMBLY-14: Conflicting Specification of Values for Many-Valued StringProperties
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-14

Updated proposals contained in this email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00070.html

ASSEMBLY-38: Clarify whether a Default Value for a Property must appear inthe componentType of an implementation
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-38

Proposal is contained in the Issue.

ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16

Proposal contained in these emails:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00111.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00003.html

ASSEMBLY-39: Permit intents and PolicySets on elements
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-38

Proposal is contained in the Issue.

ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8

The proposal is discussed in these emails:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00092.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00102.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00058.html

ASSEMBLY-33 Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33

The proposal is contained in this email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00109.html

7. AOB

Bob: I am having difficulty dialing in
Bob: My internet connection is terrible
Mike Edwards: ok, Bob - we can appoint a substitute scribe for today
Bob: Thanks much,
Bob: just email me the text and I can format it tomorrow
Mike Edwards: ok, great thanks Bob
anonymous morphed into Dieter König
Dieter König morphed into Dieter Koenig
Bob: I can't even skype in, so I guess I will miss the roll
Mike Edwards: 21/31 - quorate
michael beisiegel: Scribe: Michael Beisiegel
Bob: Strange, there is about a four second delay between my hitting enter and the text appearing in the chat room
Sanjay: china is a long way, Bob
michael beisiegel: topic: agenda bashing
Bob: Michael, thanks, Please omit time stamps in the text
michael beisiegel: no changes
michael beisiegel: topic: approval of minutes from last week
Bob sue is Sanjay, in more ways than one
michael beisiegel: minutes approved
michael beisiegel: topic: acition items
Bob: s/acition/action
michael beisiegel: 2008-04-01-1: and 2008-04-01-2:  still outstanding
michael beisiegel: 2008-04-15-1: is done
michael beisiegel: Topic: Artifact URI Proposal from OpenCSA Liaison Committee
michael beisiegel: thx Bob
Bob np
michael beisiegel: motion: m: Martin C s: Bryan A to accept proposal as in document
michael beisiegel: resolution: accepted unanimously
michael beisiegel: topic: Updated CD-01 Package for Publication
michael beisiegel: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/28037/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-CD01.zip
michael beisiegel: fuerther update for bpel and c/cpp needed
michael beisiegel: s/fuerther/further
michael beisiegel: action: Mike E to check latest version uri's in rdl file for schema artifacts
michael beisiegel: action: Mike E to check the main xsd files so that the includes are correct
michael beisiegel: topic: new issues
michael beisiegel: ASSEMBLY-61 Component type information directly in components
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-61
michael beisiegel: motion: m: Ron B s: Micheal B to open the issue
michael beisiegel: resolution: accepted unanimously
michael beisiegel: topic: existing issues
michael beisiegel: issue 14
michael beisiegel: ASSEMBLY-14: Conflicting Specification of Values for Many-Valued StringProperties
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-14

Updated proposals contained in this email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00070.html
michael beisiegel: motion: m: Dave B s: Michael B to accept this as resolution of issue 14
michael beisiegel: resolution: accepted unanimously
michael beisiegel: issue 38
ASSEMBLY-38: Clarify whether a Default Value for a Property must appear inthe componentType of an implementation
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-38
Mike Edwards: The componentType property element MAY contain an SCA default value for the property
declared by the implementation. However, the implementation MAY have a property
which has an implementation defined default value, where the default value is not represented
in the componentType. An example of such a default value is where the default value is computed
at runtime by some code contained in the implementation.

Mike Edwards: If a using component needs to be sure of the value of a property used by an
implementation, the component MUST set the value explicitly, which has the effect
of replacing any default value.

Mike Edwards: If a using component needs to be sure of the value of a property used by an
implementation, the component MUST set the value explicitly, which has the effect
of replacing any implementation default value.

Mike Edwards: If a using component needs to be sure of the value of a property used by an
implementation, the component MUST set the value explicitly, which the SCA runtime MUST ensure has the effect
of replacing any implementation default value.

Mike Edwards: If a using component needs to control the value of a property used by an implementation, the component MUST set the value explicitly, which the SCA runtime MUST ensure has the effect of replacing any implementation default value.
Mike Edwards: If a using component needs to control the value of a property used by an implementation, the component MUST set the value explicitly and the SCA runtime MUST ensure that any implementation default value is replaced.
Martin C: recolution text:
Mike Edwards: Resolution text
Mike Edwards: The componentType property element MAY contain an SCA default value for the property
declared by the implementation. However, the implementation MAY have a property
which has an implementation defined default value, where the default value is not represented
in the componentType. An example of such a default value is where the default value is computed
at runtime by some code contained in the implementation.

Mike Edwards: If a using component needs to control the value of a property used by an implementation, the component MUST set the value explicitly and the SCA runtime MUST ensure that any implementation default value is replaced.
Mike Edwards: ----------------
michael beisiegel: motion: m: Mike E s: Dave B to use resolution text as in chat to resolve issue 38
michael beisiegel: resolution: accepted unanimously
michael beisiegel: issue 39
michael beisiegel: issue 39
michael beisiegel: ASSEMBLY-39: Permit intents and PolicySets on elements
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-39
michael beisiegel: Martin C we need to add desripction of attributes
michael beisiegel: motion m: Mike E s: Dave B to resolve 39 with proposal from jira, with action to editors to add appropriate descriptive text in section 8 of spec
michael beisiegel: resolution: accepted unanimously
michael beisiegel: meeting adjourned

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