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Subject: Draft Minutes 2008-06-24 are attached


Sorry that I am submitting these so late.
-bob
Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-06-24

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SCA-Assembly TC
Teleconference

24 JUN 2008

Attendees

Present
fred carter, (AmberPoint)
Mark Combellack, (Avaya, Inc.)
Dale Moberg, (Axway Software*)
Jacques Durand, (Fujitsu Limited*)
Robert Freund, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Eric Wells, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Bryan Aupperle, (IBM)
Michael Beisiegel, (IBM)
David Booz, (IBM)
Graham Charters, (IBM)
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Simon Holdsworth, (IBM)
Dieter Koenig, (IBM)
Simon Nash, (IBM)
Jim Marino, (Individual)
Jeff Estefan, (Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
David DiFranco, (Oracle Corporation)
Khanderao Kand, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Rich Levinson, (Oracle Corporation)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Jeff Mischkinsky, (Oracle Corporation)
Plamen Pavlov, (SAP AG*)
Chairs
Mike Edwards
Martin Chapman
Scribe
Bob Freund
Agenda:
Agenda:
1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 17th June
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/28590/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-06-17.html
3. Action Items:
2008-04-28-1: Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html
2008-06-03-3: Simon Nash to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.
2008-06-03-4: Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24
2008-06-03-5: Editors to produce a plan to accomplish the action above due=2008-06-10
2008-06-03-6: Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
2008-06-03-7: ref Assembly-16 Edwards to look into the question of aliases
2008-06-03-8: ref Assembly-16 Nash to look into how binding uris may be handled
2008-06-03-9: Mike Edwards to prepare a proposal for addressing Assembly-8 based on some of the discussions at the F2F
2008-06-03-10: Mike Edwards, raise an issue relating to deployment and redeployment and the granularity and semantics of these processes
2008-06-03-11: Mike Edwards - Question of handling changes of property values (including multi-values) - should be part of the discussion of Issue 41
2008-06-03-12: Anish Karmarkar to bring back the resolution of issue 52 back to the BPEL TC ("close no action")
2008-06-03-13: Nash/Edwards prepare proposal text for Assembly-56
2008-06-03-14: Editors construct a plan for the next CD
2008-06-03-15: Chairs to ensure that JIRA is up to date with the closed issue status in CD-01
2008-06-17-1: Bryan Aupperle to develop a re-worked proposal for the resolution of Assembly-53 based on the discussions of 2008-06-17
4. New Issues
None
5. Existing Issues
ASSEMBLY-53 Contribution Extension Model http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-53
Proposal is contained in this email
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200805/msg00037.html
Discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200805/msg00044.html
ASSEMBLY-41 Conflicting domain-level deployments
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-41
Requires a writeup based on discussions at the F2F
ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37
Waiting for a write-up based on discussions at the F2F meeting
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
Proposal requires write-up of 2 separate action items from the F2F
ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8
Waiting for a write-up based on the discussions at the F2F
Assembly-56 Need to clarify definition of Bidirectional Interfaces
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-56
Waiting for a proposal writeup
ASSEMBLY-33 Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33
Waiting on a write up based on the discussions at the F2F
7. AOB

Contents

Topics
[1]  Opening
[2]  Action items
[3]  New Issues
[4]  Existing issues
[5]  Assembly-53 - defer waiting on AI
[6]  Assembly-41 - defer waiting AI
[7]  Assembly-37 - defer waiting AI
[8]  Assembly-16 - defer waiting AI
[9]  ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution under-specified http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8
[10]  Assembly-56 Need to clarify definition of Bidirectional Interfaces http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-56
[11]  Assembly-33 - no proposal, no discussion
[12]  AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

Old:
2008-04-28-1: id=2008-04-28-1 status=pending Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html
2008-06-03-3: id=2008-06-03-3 status=pending Simon Nash to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.
2008-06-03-4: id=2008-06-03-4 status=pending Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24
2008-06-03-5: id=2008-06-03-5 status=done Editors to produce a plan to accomplish the action above due=2008-06-10
2008-06-03-6: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
2008-06-03-7: id=2008-06-03-7 status=pending due=2008-06-30 ref Assembly-16 Edwards to look into the question of aliases
2008-06-03-8: id=2008-06-03-8 status=pending ref Assembly-16 Nash to look into how binding uris may be handled
2008-06-03-9: id=2008-06-03-9 status=pending due=2008-06-26 Mike Edwards to prepare a proposal for addressing Assembly-8 based on some of the discussions at the F2F
2008-06-03-10: id=2008-06-03-10 status=done Mike Edwards, raise an issue relating to deployment and redeployment and the granularity and semantics of these processes
2008-06-03-11: id=2008-06-03-11 status=pending Mike Edwards - Question of handling changes of property values (including multi-values) - should be part of the discussion of Issue 41
2008-06-03-12: id=2008-06-03-12 status=done Anish Karmarkar to bring back the resolution of issue 52 back to the BPEL TC ("close no action")
2008-06-03-13: id=2008-06-03-13 status=pending Nash/Edwards prepare proposal text for Assembly-56
2008-06-03-14: id=2008-06-03-14 status=done Editors construct a plan for the next CD
2008-06-03-15: id=2008-06-03-15 status=done Chairs to ensure that JIRA is up to date with the closed issue status in CD-01
2008-06-17-1: id=2008-06-17-1 status=pending Bryan Aupperle to develop a re-worked proposal for the resolution of Assembly-53 based on the discussions of 2008-06-17
New:

Resolutions


Minutes

Scribe: Bob Freund

Opening

 
Roll - quorate 20 of 30 voting members
 
Agenda - Agreed
Resolution: Minutes of 2008-06-17 approved w/o

Action items

Action: id=2008-04-28-1 status=pending Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html
Action: id=2008-06-03-3 status=pending Simon Nash to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.
Action: id=2008-06-03-4 status=pending Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24
Action: id=2008-06-03-5 status=done Editors to produce a plan to accomplish the action above due=2008-06-10
Action: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
Action: id=2008-06-03-7 status=pending due=2008-06-30 ref Assembly-16 Edwards to look into the question of aliases
Action: id=2008-06-03-8 status=pending ref Assembly-16 Nash to look into how binding uris may be handled
Action: id=2008-06-03-9 status=pending due=2008-06-26 Mike Edwards to prepare a proposal for addressing Assembly-8 based on some of the discussions at the F2F
Action: id=2008-06-03-10 status=done Mike Edwards, raise an issue relating to deployment and redeployment and the granularity and semantics of these processes
Action: id=2008-06-03-11 status=pending Mike Edwards - Question of handling changes of property values (including multi-values) - should be part of the discussion of Issue 41
Action: id=2008-06-03-12 status=done Anish Karmarkar to bring back the resolution of issue 52 back to the BPEL TC ("close no action")
Action: id=2008-06-03-13 status=pending Nash/Edwards prepare proposal text for Assembly-56
Action: id=2008-06-03-14 status=done Editors construct a plan for the next CD
Action: id=2008-06-03-15 status=done Chairs to ensure that JIRA is up to date with the closed issue status in CD-01
Action: id=2008-06-17-1 status=pending Bryan Aupperle to develop a re-worked proposal for the resolution of Assembly-53 based on the discussions of 2008-06-17

New Issues

 
--none--

Existing issues

Assembly-53 - defer waiting on AI

Assembly-41 - defer waiting AI

Assembly-37 - defer waiting AI

Assembly-16 - defer waiting AI

ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution under-specified http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8

 
Booz discusses the proposal that he is preparing'
Booz:
If we consider include as a development-time facility
 
... then we could have source code control mechanisms as long as we restrict includes to development time
 
... Includes within a contribution must be resolved within that contribution
 
... that is the core of what I intend to propose for issue 8
 
Further consideration will await the proposal

Assembly-56 Need to clarify definition of Bidirectional Interfaces http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-56

 
Edwards and Nash discuss proposal in-process and some of the issues raised
 
Folks discuss the scary possibilities
 
The discussion being adequately energetic has propelled the issue to escape velocity
 
Exhausted, the chair hopes to have a proposal by next week

Assembly-33 - no proposal, no discussion

AOB

 
straggler roll
 
Adjourned

[End of Minutes]
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