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Subject: Re: [sca-assembly] ISSUE 16: Component URI is not well described ---Proposal for Aliases



I agree that the uri attribute would not be needed on component or service.  I think it should be allowed (at the assembly level) on bindings for both references and services.  Its meaning when used in these contexts would be defined by the relevant binding specifications.  See the proposal that I just sent out for Issue 16 and binding URIs.

    Simon

Simon C. Nash, IBM Distinguished Engineer
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David Booz <booz@us.ibm.com>

02/07/2008 20:42

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This works for the use cases I had in mind.

Though you didn't mention it, I think we wouldn't need the uri attribute on
component any longer (it could be removed from the current proposal) nor
would we need it for services or bindings on services (this will raise some
eyebrows).  Bindings on references would still need something in order to
address services at hardcoded address.



Dave Booz
STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC
"Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
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                                      [sca-assembly] ISSUE 16: Component  
                                      URI is not well described ---      
                                      Proposal for Aliases                
                                                                         
                                                                         
                                                                         
                                                                         
                                                                         
                                                                         





Folks,

At the F2F meeting, when Issue 16 was discussed, it became clear that there
was a requirement for there to be what
I described as "Aliases" for the structural URIs for a component.

A short reminder of the context for this discussion.

The latest proposal for Issue 16 treats the Component URI as effectively a
structural URI - the URI describes the place
of a given component in the Domain, starting at the Domain level component
and, where a component is implemented
by a composite, tracing downwards from the domain level through each
"nested composite", adding in the name of
the component at each level.  Where a given composite is used as an
implementation multiple times by different
components, the components within that composite end up with multiple of
these URIs, one for each "usage instance".

So far so good.

These structural URIs can be used for a number of purposes.  Concentrating
on their use for administration and management
purposes, it is required that a given component instance can be given a URI
which does not change even if the structure of
the artifacts in the domain does get changed.

I term this "unchanging" URI a "URI Alias" - effectively it is a "fixed"
URI that maps to a specific structural URI - a kind of Map.

Where should these "URI Aliases" be declared and what data should they
contain?

In my opinion, these URI Aliases should be declared at the Domain level -
in a Definitions file, for example.  It is hard to make
Aliases work well if the data is inside the composites that might be
reused, since it is hard to make them aware of the multiple
uses of a composite as an implementation.

So a simple idea is to create an <alias/> element which would live inside a
<definitions/> element (logically at the Domain level)

<alias aliasURI="xs:string" actualUri="xs:string"/>

- this is a simple mapping from the (unchanging) aliasURI to the actual
structural URI of some component - if the component moves)
due to some deployment activity, the aliasURI remains unchanged and stable,
but the actualURI needs updating to point to the new
location of the component.



Yours,  Mike.

Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.
Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
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