Draft minutes from 2008-12-09 are attached

[Bob Freund <bob.freund@hitachisoftware.com>]

Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-12-09

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SCA-Assembly TC
Teleconference

09 DEC 2008

Attendees

Present

fred carter	AmberPoint	Group Member
Mark Combellack	Avaya, Inc.	Group Member
Robert Freund	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Eric Wells	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Bryan Aupperle	IBM	Group Member
Michael Beisiegel	IBM	Group Member
David Booz	IBM	Group Member
Graham Charters	IBM	Group Member
Mike Edwards	IBM	Group Member
Simon Holdsworth	IBM	Group Member
Dieter Koenig	IBM	Group Member
Simon Moser	IBM	Group Member
Jim Marino	Individual	Group Member
Simon Nash	Individual	Group Member
Martin Chapman	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Khanderao Kand	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Plamen Pavlov	SAP AG*	Group Member
Peter Walker	Sun Microsystems	Group Member
Sabin Ielceanu	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Scott Vorthmann	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member

Chairs

Mike Edwards
Martin Chapman

Scribe

Bob Freund

Agenda:

1. Opening

Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 25th November
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/30321/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-11-25.htmll

3. Action Items:

id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Karmarkar do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60

id=2008-11-25-1 status=pending Edwards to send mail to list looking for host and location for the f2f
id=2008-11-25-2 status=pending Editors implement changes to the spec as defined in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00045.html

4. TC Administrivia

Assembly F2F Meeting -
Oracle offer to host the F2F
Jan 26/27 Assembly 28/29 Policy
Oracle Conference Center, Bay Area

5. Conformance & Test

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00053.html

6. New Issues


7. Existing Issues

ASSEMBLY-33: Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33

Latest proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00038.html
Discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00039.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00041.html

ASSEMBLY-88: Possible duplicate functionality offered by constrainingType and component
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-88

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00027.html
Discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00037.html

ASSEMBLY-89: Need for a Callback annotation for WSDL interface files
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-89

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00052.html

ASSEMBLY-90: Clarify @promote in the context of composite includes
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-90

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00061.html

ASSEMBLY-34: Define error handling
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-34

ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37

Latest proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00024.html

ASSEMBLY-46: Dynamic Aspects of the Domain not adequately described in the Assembly Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-46

ASSEMBLY-5: component type allows to specify wire targets on references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5

ASSEMBLY-86: Abstract CRUD APIs for definitions infoset
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-86

ASSEMBLY-87: A single definitions infoset is not sufficient
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-87

ASSEMBLY-80: Create an Event Processing Model for SCA
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-80

ASSEMBLY-2: use of UML 2.0
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-2

ASSEMBLY-91: Details needed for sca:ConversationViolation
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-91

ASSEMBLY-94 Remove Conversational interfaces functionality
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-94

ASSEMBLY-95 "wiredByImpl" is an invalid attribute for a Composite Reference
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-95

ASSEMBLY-97 Need Assembly level definition for "AllowsPassByReference"
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-97

7. Issue Status
17 Open Issues
x opened
x resolved
8. AOB

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Opening

[2]  Action Items

[3]  TC Administrivia

[4]  Next FTF meeting

[5]  Holiday Schedule

[6]  Conformance and Test

[7]  Active Issues

[8]  ASSEMBLY-33: Long-Running Request-Response Operations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33

[9]  ASSEMBLY-5: component type allows to specify wire targets on references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5

[10]  ASSEMBLY-88: Possible duplicate functionality offered by constrainingType and component http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-88

[11]  ASSEMBLY-89: Need for a Callback annotation for WSDL interface files http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-89

[12]  ASSEMBLY-94 Remove Conversational interfaces functionality http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-94

[13]  AOB

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

Done:

id=2008-10-30-5 status=done Vorthmann to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5

id=2008-11-25-1 status=done Edwards to send mail to list looking for host and location for the f2f

Pending:

id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness

id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail

id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32

id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Karmarkar do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60

id=2008-11-25-2 status=pending Editors implement changes to the spec as defined in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00045.html

New:

id=2008-12-09-1 status=pending Edwards to inform the replated TCs with the results of the decision on the resolution of Assembly-33

id=2008-12-09-2 status=pending Edwards to update the proposal for the resolution of Assembly-89 in detail and come back to the list with it

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Resolutions

• 2008-12-09-1: Minutes of 2008-11-25 approved w/o
• 2008-12-09-2: (As amended) Resolve Assembly-33 with proposal_3.doc contained in http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200811/msg00073.html with the replacement of the word "requires" with the word "permits" in the first sentence following the heading "The asyncInvocation Intent" passes on a 13-2-2 vote
• 2008-12-09-3: Resolve Assembly-5 with the proposal contained in the JIRA entry at http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5 and associated spec text w/o

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Minutes

<Peter Walker>

Howdy

Scribe: Bob Freund

Opening

Roll - 16 of 25 voting members present

Simon Moser returns from LOA

Agenda - agreed with the addition of a discussion on holiday calls

Resolution: Minutes of 2008-11-25 approved w/o

Action Items

Action: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness

Action: id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail

Action: id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32

Action: id=2008-10-30-5 status=done Vorthmann to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5

Action: id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Karmarkar do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60

Action: id=2008-11-25-1 status=done Edwards to send mail to list looking for host and location for the f2f

Action: id=2008-11-25-2 status=pending Editors implement changes to the spec as defined in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00045.html

TC Administrivia

Next FTF meeting

Edwards:

Oracle has offered to host both Policy and Assembly TC's at their conference centre in the Bay Area; Jan 26/27 Assembly 28/29 Policy

Freund:

Notes that a substitute scribe will be necessary unless his other commitment falls apart

Holiday Schedule

Cancel calls on 12-23 and 12-30 due to the holidays

Conformance and Test

Edwards:

There is a conformance and test call scheduled for 2008-12-10

 

...there will be details distributed today and members will be best prepared who read them before the call

 

...I encourage as many as possible to attend

Active Issues

ASSEMBLY-33: Long-Running Request-Response Operations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33

Motion: m:Koenig s:Booz Resolve Assembly-33 with proposal_3.doc contained in http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200811/msg00073.html

<Mike Edwards>

The asyncInvocation Intent.This specification requires a long-running request-response operation or a complete interface containing such operations to be marked using a policy intent with the name asyncInvocation. It is also possible for a service to set the asyncInvocation. intent when using an interface which is not marked with the asyncInvocation. intent. This can be useful when reusing an existing interface definition that does not contain SCA information.

Amendment: m:Nash s:Booz s/requires/permits/ in the paragraph above

amendment passes

Motion: (As amended) Resolve Assembly-33 with proposal_3.doc contained in http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200811/msg00073.html with the replacement of the word "requires" with the word "permits" in the first sentence following the heading "The asyncInvocation Intent"

Resolution: (As amended) Resolve Assembly-33 with proposal_3.doc contained in http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200811/msg00073.html with the replacement of the word "requires" with the word "permits" in the first sentence following the heading "The asyncInvocation Intent" passes on a 13-2-2 vote

Action: Edwards to inform the replated TCs with the results of the decision on the resolution of Assembly-33

Unanimous consent to suspend the rules and take from the table Assembly-5

ASSEMBLY-5: component type allows to specify wire targets on references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5

Vorthmann discusses his proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200812/msg00016.html

Motion: m:Vorthmann s:Sabin Resolve Assembly-5 with the proposal contained in the JIRA entry at http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5

Amendment: m:Chapman s:Vorthmann add "and associated spec text" to the end of the jira proposal

amendment passes w/o

Motion: (as amended) Resolve Assembly-5 with the proposal contained in the JIRA entry at http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5 and associated spec text

Resolution: Resolve Assembly-5 with the proposal contained in the JIRA entry at http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5 and associated spec text w/o

ASSEMBLY-88: Possible duplicate functionality offered by constrainingType and component http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-88

defered until Karmarkar can be on the call

ASSEMBLY-89: Need for a Callback annotation for WSDL interface files http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-89

Chapman assumes chair

Edwards discusses his proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00052.html

Action: Edwards to update the proposal for the resolution of Assembly-89 in detail and come back to the list with it

ASSEMBLY-94 Remove Conversational interfaces functionality http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-94

AOB

Straggler Roll

Adjourned

[End of Minutes]
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