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SCA Assembly Teleconference

16 JUN 2009

Attendees

Present

fred carter	AmberPoint	Group Member
Mark Combellack	Avaya, Inc.	Group Member
Dale Moberg	Axway Software*	Group Member
Robert Freund	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Eric Wells	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Bryan Aupperle	IBM	Group Member
David Booz	IBM	Group Member
Graham Charters	IBM	Group Member
Mike Edwards	IBM	Group Member
Simon Holdsworth	IBM	Group Member
Simon Nash	Individual	Group Member
Jeff Estefan	Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*	Group Member
Khanderao Kand	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Anish Karmarkar	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Rich Levinson	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Gilbert Pilz	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Plamen Pavlov	SAP AG*	Group Member
Philipp Konradi	Siemens AG	Group Member
Najeeb Andrabi	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Murty Gurajada	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Sabin Ielceanu	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Danny van der Rijn	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Scott Vorthmann	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member

Chair

Mike Edwards

Scribe

Bob Freund

Agenda:

1. Opening

Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 9th June 2009

3. Action Items:

id=2009-04-07-2 status=done Editors to repair the form of the word portType
id=2009-05-05-1 status=done Editors to correct, on line 812 there appears an extra period before the word "by"

Incorporated in CD03-Rev1

4. TC Administrivia

Public Review started on April 24.
Public Review ends June 23.

Public comments list:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly-comment/

** New comments received - each one is raised here as a new issue **

5. Test Assertions and TestCases

Schedule
TestAssertions document is already complete.
TestCases document is complete
Subcommittee Review May 1 - May 27
Subcommittee Vote - May 27
Assembly TC review May 1 - June 2
Assembly TC vote - Now June 2

** Note: documents updated based on review and feedback received via the mail lists as described here:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200906/msg00089.html

Latest documents:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly-testing/download.php/32881/SCA_Assembly_Test_Assertions_18.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly-testing/download.php/32880/SCA_Assembly_Test_Assertions_18.odt
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly-testing/download.php/32878/SCA_Assembly_TestCases_24.odt
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly-testing/download.php/32879/SCA_Assembly_TestCases_24.pdf

Artifacts:
http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/sca-assembly/TestCases/#_TestCases_

and a ZIP of the artifacts:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly-testing/download.php/32949/Assembly_TestCases_V0.24.zip

We propose to vote on starting Public Review of the TestAssertions and TestCases documents at this week's meeting

6. New Issues

ASSEMBLY-148: Rebuttal: Against the use of portability and functions as reasons for requiring one of the existing 4 languages
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-148

ASSEMBLY-149: Few comments from Siemens
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-149

ASSEMBLY-150: Some TestCases can only be implemented using specific implementation Languages
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-150

ASSEMBLY-151: wireFormat and operationSelector element declarations don'thave @abstract="true"
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-151

7. Existing (Deferred) Issues

ASSEMBLY 133: Broken links in the Assembly spec
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-133

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200905/msg00116.html

ASSEMBLY 137: Clarify the use of a binding name in a reference target
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-137

ASSEMBLY 121: Conformance to OPTIONAL Normative Statements
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-121

Latest proposals:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200906/msg00100.html

ASSEMBLY 134: Promoted component reference changes multiplicity by default
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-134

Proposal is in the JIRA.

ASSEMBLY 136: Promoting a reference with multiplicity 1..n and targetsshould default to 0..n
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-136

Proposal is in the JIRA

ASSEMBLY 138: Assembly specification unclear on Contribution vs Deployment - when can errors in artifacts be reported?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-138

ASSEMBLY 80: Create an Event Processing Model for SCA
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-80

ASSEMBLY 139: What is a constrainingType file supposed to look like?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-139

ASSEMBLY 140: Need TAs and testcases for property/@file and property/@many=true
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-140

ASSEMBLY 142: Need a normative statement for @autowire inheritance
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-142

ASSEMBLY 143: There are no conformance statements in section 8.5 (CD03)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-143

ASSEMBLY 144: ASM50030 and ASM50031 (CD03) are duplicates
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-144

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY 145: Unmarked MUST on line 1030 (CD03)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-145

ASSEMBLY 147: Assembly Specification does not define the Component Type of a Composite used as an Implementation
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-147

Proposal is in JIRA

8. AOB

Minutes

Scribe: Bob Freund

Greetings folks

Opening

Roll quorate with 21 of 24 voting members present

Agenda - agreed

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/32947/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202009-06-09.html

Resolution: minutes of 2009-06-09 approved w/o

Action Items

Action: id=2009-04-07-2 status=done Editors to repair the form of the word portType

Action: id=2009-05-05-1 status=done Editors to correct, on line 812 there appears an extra period before the word "by"

TC Administrivia

Public review period ends June 23

CD01 rev 3 has been published

Test Assertions and Test Cases

Some re-work has been done to accomodate OASIS namespace standards

There are new versions of the Test documents which are linked out of the agenda

Edwards:

I would be keen to get the test documents and artifacts out for public review and would like to discuss this

Karmarkar:

concerning technology independence, I note that there are some Java specific artifacts in various tests

Aupperle:

I have produced C and C++ versions of all of the tests that can be tested

...there are two cases that cannot be tested in C and three in C++ due to language restrictions

Shock and AWE spreads across the TC due to the scope of the test cases

I wonder if the document might be a manifest pointing to the documents

Is there a fragment scheme for zips?

There was a wide-ranging discussion of a mechanism for packaging the large number of files

<anish>

i think if the TC admin wants to unzip it in a directory that would be ok, but i think the zip file should also be made availbale

The specification document and related files are available here:

Editable Source:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-sx/security-policy/examples/ws-sp-usecases-examples-cd-01.doc
PDF:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-sx/security-policy/examples/ws-sp-usecases-examples-cd-01.pdf
HTML:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-sx/security-policy/examples/ws-sp-usecases-examples-cd-01.html
Examples:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-sx/security-policy/examples/

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These are the relevant lines from the message we have been discussing.

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<anish>

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly-testing/download.php/32881/SCA_Assembly_Test_Assertions_18.pdf

Resolution: m:Booz s:Aupperle accept Test Assertions ver 18 as CD01 w/o

<anish>

how long do we want the PR to last?

<anish>

60 days i assume

<anish>

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly-testing/download.php/32879/SCA_Assembly_TestCases_24.pdf

<anish>

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly-testing/download.php/32949/Assembly_TestCases_V0.24.zip

60 days seems right

It would be the first PR so I believe 60 days is the minimum.

Resolution: m:Booz s:Aupperle Accept Test Cases version 24 and associated artifacts as cd01 w/o

Resolution: m:Aupperle s:Plamen Publish cd01 of test assertions and cd01 of test cases for a 60 day public review w/o

<anish>

administrivia: we should consider the two documents as separate artifacts when raising new issues. Probably will require new components in JIRA

Neue Issues

New Issue Assembly-148 Rebuttal: Against the use of portability and functions as reasons for requiring one of the existing 4 languages http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-148

<anish>

not sure why this is a new issue. isn't this the saem issue?

<anish>

if this motion passes we'll have to closed as dup issue 148

Resolution: m:Nash sBooz: re-open Issue-132 re-opened with the comment contained in Issue-148 w/o

Resolution: m:Freund s:Booz close Assembly-148 as a duplicate of Assembly-132 w/o

New Issue ASSEMBLY-149: Few comments from Siemens http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-149

<anish>

seem like 2 different issues

+21

sorry that should have been +1

i think I misunderstood... thought you were saying this is different from 132/148

Dave, can you post the link to the minutes you cited

sure, just a sec

Motion: m:Freund s:Plamen Open New Issue Assembly-149

Scott, http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/32674/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202009-05-19.pdf

Motion: (to ammend) m:Aupperle s:Karmarkar Open issue 149 for comment 1 and a new issue next in order be opened for comment 2

amendment passes w/o

Resolution: Open issue 149 for comment 1 and a new issue next in order be opened for comment 2 w/o

AOB

straggler roll

Pilz, Konradi

Adjourned

Schreiber diagnostics output

[Delete this section before publishing the minutes]

statistics: Schreiber found 70 input lines

edits: Schreiber found the following text-edit commands:

edits: Line 21: s/ben/been

edits: Line 24: s/ken/keen

edits: Line 28: s/Aupperly/Aupperle

command-scribe: Line 3: Since the line number is less than or equal to 20 we will interpret this as a scribename command, note that the scribe command is deprecated

command-scribe: Line 3: Bob Freund is recognized

command-scribe: Line 3: Bob Freund's nick Bob has been selected

command-chair: Line 7: Since the line number is less than or equal to 20 we will interpret this as a chairname command, note that the chair command is deprecated

command-autoroll/oasis: Line 10: Attempting to fetch roll from http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/event.php?event_id=16096

command-autoroll/oasis: Line 10: Successfully fetched roll from http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/event.php?event_id=16096

edit-substitute: command on line 21 succeeded, changed line 20 from 'ben' to 'been'

edit-delete: Line 21 was deleted

edit-substitute: command on line 24 succeeded, changed line 23 from 'ken' to 'keen'

edit-delete: Line 24 was deleted

edit-substitute: command on line 28 succeeded, changed line 26 from 'Aupperly' to 'Aupperle'

edit-delete: Line 28 was deleted

system: Transformer: SAXON 9.1.0.6

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- DRAFT -

SCA Assembly Teleconference

16 JUN 2009

Attendees

Present

Chair

Scribe

Agenda:

Contents

Action Items

Resolutions

Minutes

Opening

Action Items

TC Administrivia

Test Assertions and Test Cases

Neue Issues

New Issue Assembly-148 Rebuttal: Against the use of portability and functions as reasons for requiring one of the existing 4 languages http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-148

New Issue ASSEMBLY-149: Few comments from Siemens http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-149

AOB

Schreiber diagnostics output