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Subject: Re: [sca-assembly] ASSEMBLY-149: Siemens comment on implementationtype conformance requirement
Let's move this discussion over to the ASSEMBLY-132 thread. I'm encouraged to see the progress there towards finding a way to allow conformance for other implementation types. Simon Martin Chapman wrote: > Just thinking aloud here, but what if there is just a requirement to > make test suits publically available for any impl language. > > All Open CSA member TCs would qualify, as would any proprietary > technology provided the test suite is made available. > > > > Martin. > > > > > > > > *From:* Mike Edwards [mailto:mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com] > *Sent:* 24 June 2009 15:24 > *To:* OASIS Assembly > *Subject:* Re: [sca-assembly] ASSEMBLY-149: Siemens comment on > implementation type conformance requirement > > > > > Simon, > > To quote from your email: > > "as long as > each implementation technology conforms to the Assembly and Policy > specifications and passes the Assembly and Policy conformance tests. > The same requirement should be sufficient for SCA conformance." > > - this begs the question "how do you ensure that each implementation > technology conforms to > the Assembly & Policy specifications and passes the conformance tests?" > > We need a concrete approach to answer this question. It is what I have > been debating in the > email exchanges with Jim and with Don Ferguson. > > Do you have a view on how this can be achieved? > > > Yours, Mike. > > Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO. > Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC. > IBM Hursley Park, Mail Point 146, Winchester, SO21 2JN, Great Britain. > Phone & FAX: +44-1962-818014 Mobile: +44-7802-467431 > Email: mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com > > From: > > > > Simon Nash <oasis@cjnash.com> > > To: > > > > OASIS Assembly <sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org> > > Date: > > > > 19/06/2009 10:43 > > Subject: > > > > [sca-assembly] ASSEMBLY-149: Siemens comment on implementation type > conformance requirement > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > I think the arguments put forward in the public review comment by > Siemens make a good case for relaxing the conformance rule that an > SCA runtime must support at least one of the OpenCSA Member Section > adopted implementation types. > > The architecture of SCA has been carefully designed to support a > wide range of different technologies for implementations, interfaces, > and protocols. The flexibility and adaptability that this provides > is a key strength of SCA, enabling the use of SCA across a very broad > range of technologies, environments and applications. > > For SCA to be successful, it must be widely adopted by the industry. > Unfortunately, from this Siemens comment as well as other public review > comments, it is becoming apparent that the conformance rules in the > public review draft standard could have the effect of discouraging > broad adoption of SCA by imposing conformance requirements that are > too onerous for some prospective adopters. > > The Assembly TC's response to ASSEMBLY-132 said that the requirement > to support one of the OpenCSA adopted implementation types could be > satisfied by bringing other proposed implementation types into the > OpenCSA standards. This Siemens comment gives good reasons why this > many not be possible if the underlying implementation technology > is itself proprietary, domain specific, or non-standard. > > To promote broad industry adoption of SCA, the flexibility and > modularity of the technical architecture should be matched by similar > flexibility and modularity in the conformance rules. From a technical > standpoint there is no requirement for different components within an > SCA assembly to share the same implementation technology, as long as > each implementation technology conforms to the Assembly and Policy > specifications and passes the Assembly and Policy conformance tests. > The same requirement should be sufficient for SCA conformance. > > Simon > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > /Unless stated otherwise above: > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number > 741598. > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU/ > > > > >
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