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Subject: Re: [sca-bindings] Conformace point highlight color
Simon Nash wrote: > After printing all of these out on my mono laser printer, I like the > pale yellow the least of all (it isn't visible). > > In order of visibility on my printout, from least visible to most visible: > C20014 (pale yellow) > C20006 (pale yellow) > C20009 (green) > C20013 (pale grey) > C20004 (bright yellow) > C20012 (bright yellow) > C20011 (orange) > C20003 (darker grey) > C80002 (mid blue) > C20008 (dark blue) > C80001 (cyan) > C20007 (cyan) > > IMO, the pale yellow and green are too light to be visible easliy, and > the cyan, dark blue and mid blue are too dark. This leaves pale grey, > bright yellow, orange and darker grey. > > If bright yellow is not acceptable for some reason (not sure why), How about: hurts my eyes ;-) Actually, I'm now conditioned to that color so it is not as jarring as before. I was looking at MS Word help and they offer the following advice: "Use a light highlight color if you plan to print the document by using a monochrome or dot-matrix printer" -Anish -- > my alternative choices in order of preference would be pale grey, > orange and darker grey. > > However, I think the current bright yellow colour works better on > screen and in printouts than any of the other alternatives. > > Simon > > David Booz wrote: >> After seeing the gray, I like the pale yellow much better than I did >> before. >> >> Dave Booz >> STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture >> Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC >> "Distributed objects first, then world hunger" >> Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093 >> e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com >> >> Inactive hide details for Bryan Aupperle---07/01/2009 08:24:39 AM---I >> should not do these things late in the day... Here are thBryan >> Aupperle---07/01/2009 08:24:39 AM---I should not do these things late >> in the day... Here are the attachments >> >> >> From: >> Bryan Aupperle/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS >> >> To: >> sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org, sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org, >> sca-c-cpp@lists.oasis-open.org >> >> Date: >> 07/01/2009 08:24 AM >> >> Subject: >> Re: [sca-bindings] Conformace point highlight color >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> I should not do these things late in the day... >> Here are the attachments >> >> >> Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D. >> STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect >> >> >> Research Triangle Park, NC >> +1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508) >> Internet Address: aupperle@us.ibm.com >> >> *Simon Nash <oasis@cjnash.com>* >> >> 07/01/2009 07:17 AM >> >> >> To >> Bryan Aupperle/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS >> cc >> sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org, sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject >> Re: [sca-bindings] Conformace point highlight color >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bryan, >> Where is the sample with the two shades of grey? >> >> Simon >> >> Bryan Aupperle wrote: >> > >> > I have added two shades of grey (10% and 20%) to the samples. I agree >> > with your point about grey working well with color-challenged >> technology >> > and people. My only concern about that approach is that this does not >> > provide any real visual distinction from samples. >> > >> > In the C++ and C specs we use italics for text literals and courier >> for >> > language constructs (keywords/identifiers), so I would not be thrilled >> > with the font changes you suggested. >> > >> > Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D. >> > STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect >> > >> > Research Triangle Park, NC >> > +1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508) >> > Internet Address: aupperle@us.ibm.com >> > >> > >> > *Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>* >> > >> > 06/26/2009 06:47 PM >> > >> > > To >> > Bryan Aupperle/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS >> > cc >> > sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org, >> sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org, >> > sca-c-cpp@lists.oasis-open.org >> > Subject >> > Re: [sca-bindings] Conformace point highlight color >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Bryan, >> > >> > Thanks for starting the thread and providing alternatives. >> > I actually prefer a shade of grey. Is there a good reason not to use >> > grey? Works well with color-challenged technology and people. We could >> > even use italics in addition to the grey color. I know in some SCA >> specs >> > we have used italics (although not consistently) for attribute/element >> > names/values, but I would suggest changing that and using courier new >> > font for those. >> > >> > I would also like to start a discussion on the suggestion that Eric >> had >> > made: to use a superscript instead of running text for the conformance >> > item number. It does enhance the readability. >> > >> > -Anish >> > -- >> > >> > Bryan Aupperle wrote: >> > > >> > > There has been some discussion over the past few weeks about the >> color >> > > highlighting of the conformance points in several of the TCs. To >> > > summarize the key points of the discussion: >> > > >> > > - Without the highlighting, it is not clear in the PDF version of >> > > document what the extent of the conformance point text is (it >> shows up >> > > with grey shading in Word but this is not carried over to the >> generated >> > > PDF). One of the TAB members remarked favorably on the >> highlighting of >> > > the Assembly spec in his review of the C++ spec. >> > > - The current highlight color can make the text hard to read in >> some >> > > environments, especially when the highlighted content includes >> added >> > > text that is displayed in a different color. This will not be >> as big a >> > > concern when we are done working on the documents, but is a >> problem for >> > > us in the mean time. >> > > - The current color is rather intense. >> > > >> > > I have prepared a test version of the C spec, which currently >> does not >> > > have the highlighting, showing 6 different highlight color >> options (the >> > > original yellow, plus 5 others) The best place to look at the >> samples >> > > is Appendix F (pages 109-112). Here you can see the colors with >> and >> > > without added text in them. I have also converted the sample to >> PDF to >> > > show what that would look like (links do not work). >> > > >> > > > > >> > > I offer this up to start an e-mail discussion about what >> highlighting >> > > color people prefer. My preference is the light yellow used for >> C20006 >> > > and C20014. It shows well but does not seem to clash as badly >> with red >> > > marking for added text. >> > > >> > > Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D. >> > > STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect >> > > >> > > Research Triangle Park, NC >> > > +1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508) >> > > Internet Address: aupperle@us.ibm.com >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC >> that >> > > generates this mail. 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