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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

29 SEP 2009

Attendees

Present

Mark Combellack	Avaya, Inc.	Group Member
Dale Moberg	Axway Software*	Group Member
Eric Wells	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Bryan Aupperle	IBM	Group Member
David Booz	IBM	Group Member
Mike Edwards	IBM	Group Member
Simon Holdsworth	IBM	Group Member
Diane Jordan	IBM	Group Member
Mike Kaiser	IBM	Group Member
Dieter Koenig	IBM	Group Member
Simon Nash	Individual	Group Member
Jeff Estefan	Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*	Group Member
Martin Chapman	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Anish Karmarkar	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Rich Levinson	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Ashok Malhotra	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Jonathan Maron	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Sanjay Patil	SAP AG*	Group Member
Plamen Pavlov	SAP AG*	Group Member
Danny van der Rijn	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Scott Vorthmann	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member

Chairs

Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards

Scribe

Eric Wells

Agenda:

1. Introductions

Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/34425/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202009-09-22.html

3. Action Items

2009-09-15-1 status=pending Booz to offer alternative wording for Assembly-165

4. TC Administrivia

a) 1st Public Review of the Assembly Model spec ended June 23

Public comments list:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly-comment/

b) Looking for Proposals for all open issues - see Item 8 of this agenda

5. Test Assertions and TestCases

Public Review started on Aug 18 and is due to end on Oct 17.

6. Existing Issues with Proposals

ASSEMBLY-157: Make support for constrainingType an optional compliance point
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-157

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200909/msg00232.html

ASSEMBLY 139: What is a constrainingType file supposed to look like?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-139

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200909/msg00233.html

ASSEMBLY 142: Need a normative statement for @autowire inheritance
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-142

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200909/msg00226.html

ASSEMBLY 143: There are no conformance statements in section 8.5 (CD03)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-143

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200909/msg00227.html

ASSEMBLY 145: Unmarked MUST on line 1030 (CD03)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-145

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200909/msg00228.html

7. Test Suite Open Issues

ASSEMBLY 167: TestComposite63.composite contains an incorrect name
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-167

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY 168: Errors in ASM_12013_TestCase artifacts
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-168

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY 169: Errors in Artifacts for ASM_12005_TestCase
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-169

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY 170: Errors in Artifacts for a set of testcases in ASM_120xx range
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-170

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY 171: Problems with artifacts for a set of the TestCases for SCA Assembly
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-171

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY 172: ASM-TA-5031 is not adequately tested by any TestCase in the Test Suite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-172

ASSEMBLY 173: Errors in Test Artifacts for ASM_6022, ASM_5032, ASM_5016
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-173

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY 175: Current Schema for Properties does not support value attribute- [ASM50027]
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-175

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY 159: Align Test Assertion Document with latest Draft Assembly Spec
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-159

8. New Issues

ASSEMBLY 182: sca-core.xsd incorrectly has @autowire attribute for composite element
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-182

ASSEMBLY 183: Conformance statement for binding.sca
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-183

ASSEMBLY 184: TestCase client - need to add capability for Test Bridge to check the actual error returned by the runtime.
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-184

ASSEMBLY 185: Artfacts for Testcases that have statically checkable errors must be placed into separate Contributions
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-185

9. Existing Issues without proposals

ASSEMBLY-132: Microsoft technical comment about the SCA Assembly Model specification #1
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-132

ASSEMBLY-149: Few comments from Siemens
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-149

ASSEMBLY 138: Assembly specification unclear on Contribution vs Deployment - when can errors in artifacts be reported?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-138

ASSEMBLY 140: Need TAs and testcases for property/@file and property/@many=true http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-140

ASSEMBLY 158: Composite property example contradicts spec definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-158

ASSEMBLY 80: Create an Event Processing Model for SCA http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-80

Directional proposal is in this email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200906/msg00129

Minutes

Scribe: Eric Wells

Opening

Roll call 18/30 = 60% quorate (not 2/3)

Agenda bashing - no changes

Aproval of minutes of 2009-09-22 and 2009-09-23

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/34425/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202009-09-22.html

No objections

Resolution: Minutes of 2009-09-22 and 2009-09-23 approved w/o

Action items

Action: id=2009-09-15-1 status=done Booz to offer alternative wording for Assembly-165

Administrivia

we are 19/29 65% so need one more for new issues

Chairs request (again) proposals for all open issues.#

1st Public Review of the Assembly Model spec ended June 23

Public comments list:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly-comment/

Existing Issues with Proposals

ASSEMBLY-157: Make support for constrainingType an optional compliance point
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-157

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200909/msg00232.html

Changes in section 6 Constraining Type

Make constrainingType optional - if supported MUST support all in this section

SimonN:

OPTIONAL is RFC2119 keyword - not capitalized and not used as in RFC2119

MartinC:

Don't like optional - either require it or remove it

Discussion on email list:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200909/msg00296.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200909/msg00299.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200909/msg00300.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200909/msg00301.html

DaveB:

if not supported then could either be tolerated or rejected

...treat like extension - ignore if not supported

MartinC:

Seems a design issue - nothing to do with runtime so not part of SCA

DaveB:

constrainingType like a template for component but not complete system - more would be needed

...not sure we would want to standardize a templating mechanism

...also don't want to box in by mandating constrainingType only to have to change it later

AshokM:

Don't think templating is specified well enough at present to replace constrainingType

DaveB:

Agreed - at present just make cT optional and add templating in subsequent version of spec

AnishK:

cT was created to support contracts at runtime which ensure parts of component conforms to contract implied by cT

...a bit like subclassing a base type

...Hence runtime shouldn't be able to ignore cT as it represents a contract

MartinC:

cT can make things very difficult - not usre which use cases (practical) are enabled

DaveB:

Agree that cT and templates are not the same thing

...but templating would obviate the need for cT

MikeE:

Not getting customers banging on the door demanding cT

AnishK:

Meant runtime in loose sense - would probably done at deployment but spec dosen't define this

...cT is implementation independant - allows different teams of programmers to work with contracts

...cT was used to provide runtime check - so shouldn't be ignored

MartinC:

Can't assume all stuff in runtime is debugged and valid - cT provides a check

MikeE:

Have used composites over top of components and use these to constrain

AnishK:

Thats a good argument for removal as opposed to optional

...will need to think about this

Further discussion offline/E-mail

Agreement to skip ASSEMBLY 139: What is a constrainingType file supposed to look like?

Test Suite Issues

ASSEMBLY 167: TestComposite63.composite contains an incorrect name
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-167
Proposal is in JIRA

MikeE:

Reviews issue & proposal

No duscussion

Motion: m=MikeE s=DaveB Resolve ASSEMBLY-167 with proposal in JIRA

some clarification of what test is doing

Resolution: Resolve ASSEMBLY-167 with proposal in JIRA w/o

ASSEMBLY 168: Errors in ASM_12013_TestCase artifacts
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-168
Proposal is in JIRA

MikeE:

Reviews issue & proposals

...corrections to test case for langauage independence

..."latest" version in subversion already has changes

Motion: m=MikeE s=BryanA Resolve ASSEMBLY 168 with porposal in JIRA

Resolution: Resolve ASSEMBLY 168 with porposal in JIRA w/o

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Motion: m=EricW s=AnishK Propose a vote of thanks to Simon Nash for all his hard work on SCA

No Objections!

Resolution: SCA - with no objections vote of thanks to Simon Nash for all his hard work on SCSCA - with no objections

Straggelr role - DannyV, SimonH

Eric, many thanks for scribing

Issue log - Opened = 0, Closed = 2

Adjourned 9:01AM PDT

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- DRAFT -

OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

29 SEP 2009

Attendees

Present

Chairs

Scribe

Agenda:

Contents

Action Items

Resolutions

Minutes

Opening

Action items

Administrivia

Existing Issues with Proposals

Test Suite Issues

AOB

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