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Title: SCA-Assy - 2010-01-26

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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

26 JAN 2010

Attendees

Present

Mark Combellack	Avaya, Inc.	Group Member
Jacques Durand	Fujitsu Limited*	Group Member
Eric Wells	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Bryan Aupperle	IBM	Group Member
David Booz	IBM	Group Member
Graham Charters	IBM	Group Member
Mike Edwards	IBM	Group Member
Diane Jordan	IBM	Group Member
Dieter Koenig	IBM	Group Member
Jeff Estefan	Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*	Group Member
Martin Chapman	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Anish Karmarkar	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Rich Levinson	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Sanjay Patil	SAP AG*	Group Member
Plamen Pavlov	SAP AG*	Group Member
Sabin Ielceanu	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Eric Johnson	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Danny van der Rijn	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Scott Vorthmann	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member

Chairs

Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards

Scribe

Eric Wells

Agenda:

Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/36100/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202010-01-19.html

3. Action Items

id=2009-11-03-1 status=pending Edwards to add a test assertion supporting Assembly-187
id=2009-12-01-6 status=pending owner="Scott" Provide proposal for alternative to Domain Channel
id=2009-12-01-7 status=pending owner="Scott" Provide proposal for promotion of channels
id=2009-12-15-1 status=pending Edwards to create a test case to propose resolving Assembly-172
id=2010-01-19-1 status=done Edwards to post to the list a point that issue 214 may be closing and give jim fair warning

4. TC Administrivia

CD05 submitted for publication and for Public Review:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201001/msg00216.html

5. New Issues (Spec)

None

7. New Issues (Test)

None

8. Test Suite Open Issues

ASSEMBLY 193: Testcase ASM_12011 is missing a Contribution
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-193

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-214: cyclic import resolutions in testcases ASM_13001, ASM_13002, ASM_13003, ASM_13004, ASM_13005, ASM_13006, ASM_13007, ASM_13008
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-214

Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201001/msg00189.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201001/msg00187.html


ASSEMBLY-213: vendor-specific build tools (plugins) required to run conformance test build
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-213

ASSEMBLY-212: Conformance tests contain vendor-specific runtime artifacts
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-212

ASSEMBLY-211: OASIS conformance tests depend on vendor-specific runtime jars by default
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-211

ASSEMBLY-210: Conformance tests rely on vendor-specific version of the OASIS Java APIs
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-210

ASSEMBLY-209: schema location errors in Test ASM_2003
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-209

ASSEMBLY-208: Schema location error in Test ASM_2002
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-208

ASSEMBLY-207: Policy assumptions for testcases ASM_100002 and ASM_100003 are incorrect
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-207

ASSEMBLY-206: Test 5032 and 5034 uses runtime-specific URIs
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-206

ASSEMBLY-205: TEST_ASM_12001 has empty composite name
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-205

ASSEMBLY-204: Assembly Tests do not verify composite name resolution
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-204

ASSEMBLY-203: TEST_ASM_9002 composite incorrectly named TEST_ASM_9001
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-203

ASSEMBLY-202: Test ASM_6033 has various typos
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-202

ASSEMBLY-200: Test ASM_8004 missing test case
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-200

ASSEMBLY-199: Invalid description for Test ASM_6001
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-199

ASSEMBLY-198: Use of java.lang.StringBuffer in test ASM_8002
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-198

ASSEMBLY-197: Java classes do not follow standard capitalization in test classes
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-197

Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201001/msg00168.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201001/msg00166.html

ASSEMBLY-196: Negative testing layout - invalid artifacts in General contribution
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-196

ASSEMBLY-195: import and export of the same namespace for some testcases
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-195

ASSEMBLY-194: Test classes do not correspond to Maven conventions
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-194



9. Existing Issues without proposals

ASSEMBLY 140: Need TAs and testcases for property/@file and property/@many=true http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-140
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-140

ASSEMBLY 172: ASM-TA-5031 is not adequately tested by any TestCase in the Test Suite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-172

ASSEMBLY 159: Align Test Assertion Document with latest Draft Assembly Spec
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-159

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Opening

[2]  Approval of Minutes 01-19-10

[3]  Action items

[4]  Administrivia

[5]  New Issues

[6]  Test Suite Open Issues

[7]  AOB

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

Done:

id=2010-01-19-1 status=done Edwards to post to the list a point that issue 214 may be closing and give jim fair warning

Pending:

id=2009-11-03-1 status=pending Edwards to add a test assertion supporting Assembly-187

id=2009-12-01-6 status=pending owner="Scott" Provide proposal for alternative to Domain Channel

id=2009-12-01-7 status=pending owner="Scott" Provide proposal for promotion of channels

id=2009-12-15-1 status=pending Edwards to create a test case to propose resolving Assembly-172

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Resolutions

• 2010-01-26-1: Minutes of 2010-01-19 accepted w/o
• 2010-01-26-2: ASSEMBLY-193 resolved with proposal in JIRA w/o
• 2010-01-26-3: Resolve ASSEMBLY-213 by marking all build artifacts as non-normative samples and replacable w/o
• 2010-01-26-4: Resolve ASSEMBLY-212 by moving the relevant artifacts mentioned in the Issue JIRA to a location that is clearly specific to the Tuscany Test Client Runner code and to mark those artifacts as "non-normative samples" and "replaceable" w/o
• 2010-01-26-5: ASSEMBLY-211 closed with no action.

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Minutes

Scribe: Eric Wells

Opening

Roll call: 16/23 = 69% Quorate

Agenda - Accepted as is

Approval of Minutes 01-19-10

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/36100/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202010-01-19.html

No comments - accepted

Resolution: Minutes of 2010-01-19 accepted w/o

Action items

Action: id=2009-11-03-1 status=pending Edwards to add a test assertion supporting Assembly-187

Action: id=2009-12-01-6 status=pending owner="Scott" Provide proposal for alternative to Domain Channel

Action: id=2009-12-01-7 status=pending owner="Scott" Provide proposal for promotion of channels

Action: id=2009-12-15-1 status=pending Edwards to create a test case to propose resolving Assembly-172

Action: id=2010-01-19-1 status=done Edwards to post to the list a point that issue 214 may be closing and give jim fair warning

No updates

Administrivia

CD05 Publication

Edwards:

Various editorial tweaks needed to get rev numbers, refs to other specs, etc correct

Karmarkar:

Have assumed for RDDL other TC's CD's will be after CD05

(Comments from reps from other TC's indicating most are pretty much finished)

Karmarkar:

Any changes that happen later would need changes to the RDDL for refs.

Martin C:

Formal procedure for "Designated Cross References"

 

...OASIS allows refs to be updated - we just need to follow correct procedure

New Issues

None for either Spec or Test

Test Suite Open Issues

ASSEMBLY 193: Testcase ASM_12011 is missing a Contribution
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-193
Proposal is in JIRA

Edwards:

Reviews proposal

proposal: m=MikeE s=BryanA Resolve ASSEMBLY-193 with proposal in JIRA

No comments, no objections

Resolution: ASSEMBLY-193 resolved with proposal in JIRA w/o

ASSEMBLY-214: cyclic import resolutions in testcases ASM_13001, ASM_13002, ASM_13003, ASM_13004, ASM_13005, ASM_13006, ASM_13007, ASM_13008
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-214
Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201001/msg00189.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201001/msg00187.html

Edwards:

Some E-mail posted today - need time to review before further discussion

ASSEMBLY-213: vendor-specific build tools (plugins) required to run conformance test build
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-213

Edwards:

Reviews issue

 

...Build materials are non-normative and only provided as a convienience

 

...doesn't imply that specific build tools must be used

 

...but if you don't like this then will have to provide alternative build

Aupperle:

Should be explicitly noted that the build materials are not part of suite and non-normative.

Booz:

Extraneous files should not be part of the finished ZIP file

Edwards:

In summary don't think this is an issue as these are non-normative "examples"

proposal: Resolve ASSEMBLY-213 by marking all build artifacts as non-normative samples and replacable m=MikeE s= DannyV

No futher comments - no objections

Resolution: Resolve ASSEMBLY-213 by marking all build artifacts as non-normative samples and replacable w/o

ASSEMBLY-212: Conformance tests contain vendor-specific runtime artifacts
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-212

Edwards:

Reviews issue

Edwards:

Would be good if other SCA vendors contributed their test runners to OASIS to help users/client testing

 

...NOT required though - just helps with testing

DaveB:

Just to clarify...

 

...this requires modification to test suite/tree as downloaaded from OASIS and "plugging in" their own runners, etc.

Edwards:

Tuscany Test Runner Artifacts are provided for OASIS Test Suite but can (should) be replaced

<Mike Edwards>

Edwards moves to resolve Issue 212 by moving the relevant artifacts mentioned in the Issue JIRA to a location that is clearly specific to the Tuscany Test Client Runner code and to mark those artifacts as "non normative samples" and "replaceable"

seconded by Bryan A

No further discussion - no objections

Resolution: Resolve ASSEMBLY-212 by moving the relevant artifacts mentioned in the Issue JIRA to a location that is clearly specific to the Tuscany Test Client Runner code and to mark those artifacts as "non-normative samples" and "replaceable" w/o

ASSEMBLY-211: OASIS conformance tests depend on vendor-specific runtime jars by default
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-211

Edwards:

Reviews issue

Edwards:

Nota actually vendor specific - code has been contributed to OASIS and if you don't want to use this build process use another

(ref ASSEMBLY-213, etc)

Edwards:

Runtime JAR's only part of the Maven build process

 

...suggest closing with no action

Johnson: Aggregate of these issues is the implication that only one build/runtime is supported

Edwards:

True - but the only way round that is for someone (else) to build a test suite for their own products

proposal: Close ASSEMBLY-211 with no action m=MikeE s=DaveB

Chapman:

Discussion/Resolution of previous issues makes situation clear

No further discussion, no objection

Resolution: ASSEMBLY-211 closed with no action.

ASSEMBLY-210: Conformance tests rely on vendor-specific version of the OASIS Java APIs
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-210

Edwards:

Can members please review for next meeting - quite a tricky issue

AOB

Straggeler role - none

No other business

Meeting adjourned 9:02AM PST

[End of Minutes]
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