draft minutes from 2010-08-31 are attached

[Bob Freund <bob.freund@hitachisoftware.com>]

Title: SCA-Assy - 2010-08-31

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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

31 AUG 2010

Attendees

Present

Robert Freund	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Eric Wells	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Bryan Aupperle	IBM	Group Member
David Booz	IBM	Group Member
Graham Charters	IBM	Group Member
Simon Holdsworth	IBM	Group Member
Diane Jordan	IBM	Group Member
Peter Niblett	IBM	Group Member
Jeff Estefan	Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*	Group Member
Martin Chapman	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Anish Karmarkar	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Rich Levinson	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Jonathan Maron	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Sanjay Patil	SAP AG*	Group Member
Plamen Pavlov	SAP AG*	Group Member
Eric Johnson	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Danny van der Rijn	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member

Chair

Martin Chapman

Scribe

Bob Freund

Agenda:

1. Intro

Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting

24th August 2010: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201008/msg00058.html

3. Action Items

None


4. TC Administrivia

1.1 Status
Call Schedule. Cancel 7th and 24th September?

5. New Issues (1.2)

None

7. 1.2 Specification Open Issues


ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227

Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc

Use Case Discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201008/msg00006.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201008/msg00036.html

Last email in thread: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201008/msg00087.html

ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL 1.1 mapping
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235

No Proposal

ASSEMBLY-238: (1.2): eventType element, EventType type declared twice in schema, eventType.xsd used but not defined
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-238

Proposal in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239

Proposal in JIRA


ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233

No Proposal

ASSEMBLY-241: binding decl for producer/consumer are problematic
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-241

No proposal


8. AOB

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Opening

[2]  Action Items

[3]  TC Administrivia

[4]  Spec 1.2 Open Issues

[5]  ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227

[6]  AOB

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

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Resolutions

• 2010-08-31-1: Minutes of 2010-08-24 approve w/o
• 2010-08-31-2: meetings of 2010-09-07 and 2010-09-21 canceled w/o

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Minutes

Scribe: Bob Freund

Opening

Roll - quorate with 13 of 22 voting members present

Agenda - agreed with notation that reviews have started

Resolution: Minutes of 2010-08-24 approve w/o

Action Items

- none -

TC Administrivia

Implementation Type document and Test Suite Adaptation document have been released for review

Resolution: meetings of 2010-09-07 and 2010-09-21 canceled w/o

Spec 1.2 Open Issues

ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227

<EricW>

+1 to Anish - channels shouldn't be used to explicitly "wire" components together

<EricW>

we want to decouple producers & consumers

Extended discussion of positions regarding composability, promotion etc.

<Eric Johnson>

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201008/msg00071.html

<anish>

from a model POV, why would you not decouple producers-consumers? I think this is very fundamental.

<EricW>

EricJ - producers & consumers shouldn't be decoupled?!? - then why use event/channels?

Time gentlemen

AOB

Straggler roll

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