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Subject: Exit Criteria for the SCA Specifications.



Folks,

My view of this proposal is that it makes optional normative parts of any specifications pretty well untenable.
Perhaps this is the intention.

If this was what was intended from the start, then I am sure that the approach to optional sections of any of the
SCA specifications in any of the TCs would have been very different.

The implication is that there would be an arbitrarily high bar set to achieve the exit criteria for the SCA specifications.
I see no point to this - it is a recipe for never reaching standardization.

I see two alternative paths:

o Not accept this approach to the Exit Criteria

o Start now removing all the optional normative parts of the SCA specifications (either remove them entirely or make
them non-normative - which of these to adopt will vary depending on the specification).


I remind everyone that the impact of this decision will be greater in some of the other TCs - some specifications such
as  the Web Services one - have significant optional sections.  It will also have an impact on the development of the
1.2 version of the Assembly specification.


Yours, Mike

Dr Mike Edwards  Mail Point 137, Hursley Park
STSM  Winchester, Hants SO21 2JN
SCA & Services Standards  United Kingdom
Co-Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC  
IBM Software Group  
Phone: +44-1962 818014  
Mobile: +44-7802-467431 (274097)  
e-mail: mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com  
 
 




From: Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>
To: Danny van der Rijn <dannyv@tibco.com>
Cc: OASIS Assembly <sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date: 08/03/2011 17:24
Subject: [sca-assembly] Amendment to the amendment of today's motion





Danny,

Here is the text from the chat:

"o the 2 independent runtimes shall pass the Test Suite for SCA Assembly
as described in the document 'TestCases for the SCA Assembly Model
Version 1.1 Specification'. The TC shall use the results (expected
output) of the relevant tests, submitted by the implementer (in any
form), to verify that the runtime passes the tests."


This + changes to talk about pair-wise (instead of all) implementation
of normative parts would change Mike's proposal 1 to:

"The Concrete Exit Criteria for the SCA Assembly V1.1 specification are
that:

o there shall be at least 2 independent SCA runtimes that are compliant
with each normative portion of the specification as described in Section
12.2 of the SCA Assembly V1.1 specification

o the 2 independent runtimes shall pass the Test Suite for SCA Assembly
as described in the document 'TestCases for the SCA Assembly Model
Version 1.1 Specification'. The TC shall use the results (expected
output) of the relevant tests, submitted by the implementer (in any
form), to verify that the runtime passes the tests.

-Anish
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