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Subject: draft minutes from 2011-05-24 are attached


Title: SCA-Assy - 2011-05-24

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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

24 MAY 2011

Attendees

Present

Robert Freund Hitachi, Ltd. Group Member
Bryan Aupperle IBM Group Member
Mike Edwards IBM Group Member
Simon Holdsworth IBM Group Member
Diane Jordan IBM Group Member
Mike Kaiser IBM Group Member
Peter Niblett IBM Group Member
Jeff Estefan Jet Propulsion Laboratory:* Group Member
Martin Chapman Oracle Group Member
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Group Member
Rich Levinson Oracle Group Member
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky Oracle Group Member
Gilbert Pilz Oracle Group Member
Sanjay Patil SAP AG* Group Member
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG* Group Member
Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc. Group Member
Danny van der Rijn TIBCO Software Inc. Group Member

Chairs

Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards

Scribe

Bob Freund

Agenda:

1. Intro

Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/42217/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202011-05-17.html

3. Action Items

id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-01-04-2 status=pending Edwards to write a new proposal for the resolution of Assembly-246 along the lines contained in wsra

4. TC Administrivia



5. Exit Criteria

The TC needs to adopt concrete exit criteria.

Consider how to move this forward

6. Updated 1.1 Assembly Specification - consider for CSD & PR

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/42197/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-wd074.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/42198/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-wd074.doc

7. Updated 1.1 Assembly Testcases document - consider for CSD & PR

See:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/42273/sca-assembly-1.1-testcases-wd031.odt
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/42274/sca-assembly-1.1-testcases-wd031.pdf


ASEMBLY-263: Bring TestCases document up to the level of SCA Assembly CDS08 and address Conformance statement problems
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-263

8. New Issues (1.2)

ASSEMBLY-259: Some way to "late bind" references to global domain channels
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-259


9. 1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)

ASSEMBLY-253: Add Autocreation of Channels to SCA Assembly 1.2
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-253

Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00056.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00055.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00054.html


ASSEMBLY-250: Need an equivalent to "autowire" for the eventing world
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-250

Proposal in JIRA
Follow on discussion from previous meeting

Latest discussion:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201101/msg00041.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201101/msg00030.html


ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227

Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc

Latest discussions:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00023.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00021.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00020.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00019.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00017.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00016.html


ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL 1.1 mapping
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235

Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00079.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00078.html


ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233

No Proposal

ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244

Outline proposal in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-245: Adopt the WS-RA Event Description specification to declare SCA Event Types
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-245

Proposal in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-246: Provide Location within SCA Contributions for eventType Declarations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-246

Proposal in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-257: Global domain channels creation inconsistent with pattern established by definitions.xml
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-257

Skeleton proposal in JIRA


ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248

No proposal


10. AOB

Contents

Topics
[1]  Opening
[2]  Action Items
[3]  TC Administrivia
[4]  Exit Criteria
[5]  Updated 1.1 Assembly Specification - consider for CSD & PR
[6]  Updated 1.1 Assembly Testcases document - consider for CSD & PR
[7]  New Issues relative to v1.2
[8]  New Issue ASSEMBLY-253 Add Autocreation of Channels to SCA Assembly 1.2 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-253
[9]  New Issue ASSEMBLY-259: Some way to "late bind" references to global domain channels http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-259
[10]  AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

Pending:
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-01-04-2 status=pending Edwards to write a new proposal for the resolution of Assembly-246 along the lines contained in wsra
New:
id=2011-05-24-1 status=pending Edwards and Karmarkar to work towards a proposal for next week
id=2011-05-24-2 status=pending Edwards to prepare a revised version of the test cases document to satisfy the issues raised by Bryan's comment above

Resolutions


Minutes

Scribe: Bob Freund

Opening

Roll - quorate with 15 of 18 voting members present
Addenda - agreed
Resolution: Minutes of 2011-05-07 agreed

Action Items

Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
Action: id=2011-01-04-2 status=pending Edwards to write a new proposal for the resolution of Assembly-246 along the lines contained in wsra

TC Administrivia

-none

Exit Criteria

Action: Edwards and Karmarkar to work towards a proposal for next week
<jeff.mischkinsky>
(Autoreply) sleeping -- zzzzzzzzz - dreaming of IM's

Updated 1.1 Assembly Specification - consider for CSD & PR

<Mike Edwards>
better than a cat fight here ;-)
Motion: m:Aupperle s: Accept wd-074 as csd08 of the SCA-Assembly Spec and put it forth for a 15 day public review
Motion: m:Aupperle s:Estefan Accept wd-074 as csd08 of the SCA-Assembly Spec and put it forth for a 15 day public review
Anish is fly-speccing the spec...
Resolution: m:Aupperle s:Estefan Accept wd-074 as csd08 of the SCA-Assembly Spec and put it forth for a 15 day public review. w/o

Updated 1.1 Assembly Testcases document - consider for CSD & PR

<Mike Edwards>
Action: Edwards to prepare a revised version of the test cases document to satisfy the issues raised by Bryan's comment above
Resolution: m:Aupperle s:Freund Open Assembly-263 w/o

New Issues relative to v1.2

New Issue ASSEMBLY-253 Add Autocreation of Channels to SCA Assembly 1.2 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-253

me oops

New Issue ASSEMBLY-259: Some way to "late bind" references to global domain channels http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-259

<Mike Edwards>
259 is the issue #
<Mike Edwards>
ASSEMBLY-259: Some way to "late bind" references to global domain channels
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-259
<Mike Edwards>
;-)
<Mike Edwards>
nightmares more like ;-)
Motion: m:Johnson s:Danny Open Assembly-259
<anish>
i think the only thing remaining is 227
<anish>
you can either promote multiple consumers/producers together
due to objection by Karmarkar, there is a called vote
<anish>
or if you don't know which channel then dont' connect it
<anish>
there is a case where you want to connect consumers and producers together and not say which channel it is yet -- for that we have 227 and the prosumer discussion
3 - yes 6- noes 5 - abstains motion fails

AOB

straggler roll
adjourned

[End of Minutes]
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