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Subject: Draft minutes from 2011-10-18 and 2011-10-25 are attached


Title: SCA-Assy - 2011-10-18

OASIS Logo

- DRAFT -

OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

18 OCT 2011

Attendees

Present

David Booz IBM Group Member
Martin Chapman Oracle Group Member
Mike Edwards IBM Group Member
Robert Freund Hitachi, Ltd. Group Member
Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc. Group Member
Diane Jordan IBM Group Member
Mike Kaiser IBM Group Member
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Group Member
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky Oracle Group Member
Peter Niblett IBM Group Member
Sanjay Patil SAP AG Group Member
Danny van der Rijn TIBCO Software Inc. Group Member
Eric Wells Hitachi, Ltd. Group Member

Chairs

Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards

Agenda:

1. Intro


Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/43546/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202011-09-13.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/43770/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202011-10-04.pdf


3. Action Items

id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-07-12-1 status=pending Mischkinsky to prepare proposals for augmentation of exit criteria.
id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2

4. TC Administrivia

a) Discussion of Mutual References between SCA specs

ongoing


5. 1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)

ASSEMBLY-257: Global domain channels creation inconsistent with pattern established by definitions.xml
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-257

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00019.html


ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233

Proposal in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00021.html

(plus a LOT of discussion on the email list !)


ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227

Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc


ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244

Outline proposal in JIRA


ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248

No proposal


8. AOB

Contents

Topics
[1]  Opening
[2]  Action Items
[3]  TC Administrivia
[4]  1.2 Spec Open Issues
[5]  ASSEMBLY-257: Global domain channels creation inconsistent with pattern established by definitions.xml http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-257
[6]  ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233
[7]  AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

Dropped:
id=2011-07-12-1 status=dropped Mischkinsky to prepare proposals for augmentation of exit criteria.
Pending:
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2
New:
id=2011-10-18-1 status=pending Ashok to Go through the existing Policy intents in the Policy spec and establish which ones might apply to Event processing and which probably do not apply
id=2011-10-18-2 status=pending Anish et alia to develop an example - For a particular Policy intent type (eg Confidentiality) do a worked example of how it might apply in the Event Processing space - from end to end

Resolutions


Minutes

Opening

<Bob>
Roll - 10 of 14 voting members present
<Bob>
Agenda - agreed
Resolution: minutes of September 13 2011 agreed w/o
Resolution: minutes of October 4 2011 agreed w/o

Action Items

Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
Action: id=2011-07-12-1 status=dropped Mischkinsky to prepare proposals for augmentation of exit criteria.
Action: id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
Action: id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
Action: id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2

TC Administrivia

<Bob>
designated cross-reference process changes have been approved at the Board

1.2 Spec Open Issues

ASSEMBLY-257: Global domain channels creation inconsistent with pattern established by definitions.xml http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-257

Motion: m: Johnson Assembly 257 resolved with the proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00019.html
Resolution: m: Johnson s:Freund Assembly 257 resolved with the proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00019.html w/o

ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233

<Bob>
Action: Ashok to Go through the existing Policy intents in the Policy spec and establish which ones might apply to Event processing and which probably do not apply

AOB

Action: Anish et alia to develop an example - For a particular Policy intent type (eg Confidentiality) do a worked example of how it might apply in the Event Processing space - from end to end
<Bob>
straggler roll

[End of Minutes]
Formatted on 2011-10-25 at 09:02:09 GMT-4


Minutes formatted by Schreiber, a collection of XSLT stylesheets by Bob Freund modeled after David Booth's scribe

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Title: SCA-Assy - 2011-10-25

OASIS Logo

- DRAFT -

OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

25 OCT 2011

Attendees

Present

David Booz IBM Group Member
Martin Chapman Oracle Group Member
Robert Freund Hitachi, Ltd. Group Member
Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc. Group Member
Diane Jordan IBM Group Member
Mike Kaiser IBM Group Member
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Group Member
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky Oracle Group Member
Peter Niblett IBM Group Member
Sanjay Patil SAP AG Group Member
Gilbert Pilz Oracle Group Member
Eric Wells Hitachi, Ltd. Group Member

Chairs

Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards

Scribe

Bob Freund

Agenda:

ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233

Proposal in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00021.html

(plus a LOT of discussion on the email list !)


ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227

Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc


ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244

Outline proposal in JIRA


ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248

No proposal

Contents

Topics
[1]  Opening
[2]  Action Items
[3]  TC Administrivia
[4]  v1.2 Issues
[5]  ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243
[6]  ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244
[7]  AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

Pending:
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2
id=2011-10-18-1 status=pending Ashok to Go through the existing Policy intents in the Policy spec and establish which ones might apply to Event processing and which probably do not apply
id=2011-10-18-2 status=pending Anish et alia to develop an example - For a particular Policy intent type (eg Confidentiality) do a worked example of how it might apply in the Event Processing space - from end to end
New:
id=2011-10-25-1 status=pending Chapman to discuss public review feedback with chet at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201110/msg00008.html
id=2011-10-25-2 status=pending Karmarkar to produce a proposal for Assembly-243

Resolutions


Minutes

<Dave Booz>
Hi folks, I assume we're having a call but we dont have the leader code for Mike's callin?
<Bob>
agenda?
<Peter Niblett>
I don't either
<Diane>
hi all - having no luck finding mike's host code
<Bob>
Given the lack of agenda I would propose canceling todays call
<anish>
do we have an agenda for the call?
<Bob>
none that I am aware of
<Ashok Malhotra (Oracle)>
No agenda
<MartinC>
1.2 issues?
<Diane>
if we want to redial with this Participant Code: 7124335 i can start it
<Bob>
Which are?
<Eric Johnson>
Policy discussion, I think.
<Bob>
ok I will redial
<Ashok Malhotra (Oracle)>
We could talk about 233, Peter is in the chat
<Eric Johnson>
I'm redialing...
<Bob>
233 woiuld be good
<anish>
here is the agenda from last time --
<anish>
5. 1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)

ASSEMBLY-257: Global domain channels creation inconsistent with pattern established by definitions.xml
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-257

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00019.html


ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233

Proposal in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00021.html

(plus a LOT of discussion on the email list !)


ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227

Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc


ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244

Outline proposal in JIRA


ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248

No proposal
<MartinC>
you beat me too it anish
<Diane>
for anyone who missed it above - redial with this Participant Code: 7124335

Scribe: Bob Freund

chair:
Martin Chapman

Opening

Roll - quorate with 9 of 12 voting members present

Action Items

<MartinC>
Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
Action: id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
Action: id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
Action: id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2
Action: id=2011-10-18-1 status=pending Ashok to Go through the existing Policy intents in the Policy spec and establish which ones might apply to Event processing and which probably do not apply
Action: id=2011-10-18-2 status=pending Anish et alia to develop an example - For a particular Policy intent type (eg Confidentiality) do a worked example of how it might apply in the Event Processing space - from end to end

TC Administrivia

Chapman:
We received feedback from TC-Admin
Action: Chapman to discuss public review feedback with chet at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201110/msg00008.html
<anish>
thank the commenter for the feedback. 1) we would like to keep the pdf links as they are authoritative, 2) the link to 08 version was intentional, 3) would be willing to change the citation format during DCR changes

v1.2 Issues

ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243

Chapman:
any volunteer for a proposal
Action: Karmarkar to produce a proposal for Assembly-243

ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244

Resolution: m:Johnson s:Karmarkar Close Assembly-244 with no action w/o

AOB

straggler roll
adjourned

[End of Minutes]
Formatted on 2011-11-01 at 03:07:36 GMT-4


Minutes formatted by Schreiber, a collection of XSLT stylesheets by Bob Freund modeled after David Booth's scribe

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