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Subject: Draft minutes from 2011-12-06 are attached


For review - please notify me of any corrections.

Best Regards,
               Eric.

Eric Wells
Consulting Engineer
Hitachi Ltd.

Cell: +1 415 672 2594

eric.wells@hitachisoftware.com

Title: SCA-Assembly - 2011-12-06


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Oasis SCA-Assembly Teleconference

06 DEC 2011

Attendees

NameCompanyRole
Aupperle, BryanIBMMember
Booz, DavidIBMVoting Member
Chapman, MartinOracleChair
Edwards, MikeIBMChair
Holdsworth, SimonIBMVoting Member
Johnson, EricTIBCO Software Inc.Member
Jordan, DianeIBMVoting Member
Kaiser, MikeIBMVoting Member
Karmarkar, AnishOracleVoting Member
Pilz, GilbertOracleVoting Member
van der Rijn, DannyTIBCO Software Inc.Voting Member
Wells, EricHitachi, Ltd.Voting Member

Chairs

Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards

Scribes

Eric Wells
Mike Edwards

Agenda:

1. Intro


Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/44532/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202011-11-29.html

3. Action Items

id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2
id=2011-11-29-1 status=pending Mike to contribute a write up of the IBM position on the current proposals

4. TC Administrivia

a) 1.2 Assembly spec CSD now posted on OASIS Site

b) Cancellation of meetings around Christmas & New Year

20, 27 December 3 January

5. 1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)


ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233

Examples & discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00023.html

Analysis in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201110/msg00014.html


ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239

Proposal:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/44261/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd06-239-Proposal.doc

Latest discussion (UPA problem):
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00025.html

ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227

Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc


ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00008.html

Comment:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00009.html


ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248

No proposal


8. AOB

Contents

Topics
[1]  Opening
[2]  Approval of Minutes
[3]  Action Items
[4]  Administrivia
[5]  ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233

Examples & discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00023.html

Analysis in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201110/msg00014.html
[6]  ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239

Proposal:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/44261/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd06-239-Proposal.doc

Latest discussion (UPA problem):
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00025.html
[7]  ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247

No proposal
[8]  ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00008.html

Comment:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00009.html
[9]  AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

Pending:
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2
id=2011-11-29-1 status=pending Mike to contribute a write up of the IBM position on the current proposals
New:
id=2011-12-06-1 status=pending owner="MikeE" Modify original proposal for ASEMBLY-239 to align with (2)
id=2011-12-06-2 status=pending owner="EricJ" Work up initial proposal for ASSEMBLY-247
id=2011-12-06-3 status=pending owner="EricJ" Produce the concrete text to resolve Issue 243

Resolutions


Minutes

Scribe: Eric Wells

Opening

<Mike Edwards>
9/14 present = 64%
Agenda accepted w/o

Approval of Minutes

Approval of minutes 20-11-29
Resolution: Minutes of 2011-11-29 approved w/o

Action Items

No updates
Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
Action: id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
Action: id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
Action: id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2
Action: id=2011-11-29-1 status=pending Mike to contribute a write up of the IBM position on the current proposals

Administrivia

SCA Assembly v1.2 now posted on OASIS site for PR
Created & submitted in July!
Meeting cancellations
Proposes cancelling
20, 27 December, 3 January
Jan 3rd is 1st day after holiday in the UK (Ireland & others?)
Motion: Cancel meetings on 20, 27 December, 3 January m=DannyV s=MartinC
No objections
Resolution: Meetings of 20, 27 December, 3 January cancelled w/o

ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233

Examples & discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00023.html

Analysis in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201110/msg00014.html

Ashok no on call
EricJ:
nothing to add at present

ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239

Proposal:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/44261/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd06-239-Proposal.doc

Latest discussion (UPA problem):
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00025.html

MikeE:
Summarizes options:
1) Used "std" extension mechanism
2) Use specific filter extension
3) Avoid using substitution groups & avoid UPA problem
Action: owner=MikeE Modify original proposal for ASEMBLY-239 to align with (2)

ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247

No proposal

EricJ:
Looked at this but really found just a set of questions rather than proposal
Action: owner=EricJ Work up initial proposal for ASSEMBLY-247

ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00008.html

Comment:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00009.html

Anish summarizes current status
Configuration allowed - but how not decided
Let runtime/implementation decide or define exactly how for default channel

Scribe: Mike Edwards

Mike takes over scribing
Martin:
We in Oracle can live with either solution
Eric moves to adopt as a direction for resolution of Issue 243 that the SCA Assembly specification should not define a way in which to configure the default channel (& add specification text to that effect)
Martin seconds
Motion passes unanimously
Resolution: ASSEMBLY-243 to be resolved in the direction that the SCA Assembly specification should not define a way in which to configure the default channel (& add text to that effect)
Action: owner=EricJ Produce the concrete text to resolve Issue 243

AOB

COB

[End of Minutes]
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