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Subject: Draft Minutes from 2012-01-17 are attached

Title: SCA-Assy - 2012-01-17




   
   
      
      

         
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- DRAFT -

         
OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

         
17 JAN 2012

         
Attendees

          
Present

          

           

               Bryan Aupperle
               IBM
               Member
            

            

               Martin Chapman
               Oracle
               Voting Member
            

            

               Mike Edwards
               IBM
               Chair
            

             

               Robert Freund
               Hitachi, Ltd.
               Voting Member
            

             

               Simon Holdsworth
               IBM
               Voting Member
            

            

               Eric Johnson
               Tibco Software, Inc.
               Member
            

            

               Diane Jordan
               IBM
               Voting Member
            

            

               Mike Kaiser
               IBM
               Voting Member
            

            

               Anish Karmarkar
               Oracle
               Voting Member
            

             

               Ashok Malhotra
               Oracle
               Voting Member
            

            

               Jeff Mischkinsky
               Oracle
               Voting Member
            

             

               Peter Niblett
               IBM
               Voting Member
            

             

               Sanjay Patil
               SAP AG
               Voting Member
            

             

               Gilbert Pilz
               Oracle
               Voting Member
            

            

               Eric Wells
               Hitachi, Ltd.
               Voting Member
            

         

         
Chairs

         

            

               Martin Chapman
               
               
            

            

               Mike Edwards
               
               
            

         

         
Scribe

         

            

               Bob Freund
               
               
            

         

         
Agenda:
1. Intro 

 
Roll call 
Scribe confirmation 
Agenda bashing 
 
2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting 
 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/44790/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202011-12-13.html 
 
3. Action Items 
 
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future
         publication
id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec
         and generate a proposal
id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141
         to 1.2
id=2011-11-29-1 status=pending Mike to contribute a write up of the IBM position on
         the current proposals
id=2011-12-06-2 status=pending owner="EricJ" Work up initial proposal for ASSEMBLY-247
 
4. TC Administrivia 
 
 
5. 1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2) 
 
ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239 
 
Updated Proposal:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/44620/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd06-239-Proposal_2.doc
 
 
ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233 
 
Examples & discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00023.html
 
Analysis in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201110/msg00014.html
 
 
ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227 
 
Proposal 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html 
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf 
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc 
 
 
ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes? 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247 
 
No proposal 
 
ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event
         processing 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248 
 
No proposal 
 
 
8. AOB
      

      

      

         
Contents

         

            
Topics 
            

            
[1] 
               Opening
            

            
[2] 
               Action Items
            

            
[3] 
               Specification 1.2 Open Issues
            

            
[4] 
               ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239

            
[5] 
               ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247

            
[6] 
               AOB
            

            
Table of Resolutions

            
Table of Action Items

         

      

      

      

         
Action Items

         

            
Pending:

            
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
            

            
id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
            

            
id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
            

            
id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2
            

            
id=2011-11-29-1 status=pending Mike to contribute a write up of the IBM position on the current proposals
            

            
id=2011-12-06-2 status=pending owner="EricJ" Work up initial proposal for ASSEMBLY-247
            

            
New:

            
id=2012-01-17-1 status=pending Karmarkar to write up his ideas for Assembly-239
            

         

      

      

      

         
Resolutions

         
      

      

      

         
Minutes

         

            
 Scribe: Bob Freund

         

         

            
Opening

         

         

            

            
Roll - 11 of 16 voting members present

         

         

            

            
Agenda - agreed

         

         
Resolution: Minutes of 2011-12-13 approved w/o
         

         

            
Action Items

         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
         

         
 Action: id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future
            publication
         

         
 Action: id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec
            and generate a proposal
         

         
 Action: id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141
            to 1.2
         

         
 Action: id=2011-11-29-1 status=pending Mike to contribute a write up of the IBM position on
            the current proposals
         

         
 Action: id=2011-12-06-2 status=pending owner="EricJ" Work up initial proposal for ASSEMBLY-247
         

         

            
Specification 1.2 Open Issues

         

         

            
ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239

         

         

            
 <Mike Edwards> 

            
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/44620/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd06-239-Proposal

         

         

            

            
proposal at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/44620/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd06-239-Proposal_2.doc
            

         

         

            

            
Edwards reviews the details of the proposal

         

         

            
 <Mike Edwards> 

            
Anish poses the question as to whether the 3 subelements of <Filter> element need
               to be separate
            

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
<choice minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded">
                  <element ref="sca:eventTypes.sca" />
                  <element ref="sca:body.xpath1" />
                  <element ref="sca:filterExtension" />
            </choice>
            

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
both body.xpath1 and eventytpes.sca do not belong to any substitution grp

         

         

            
 <Mike Edwards> 

            
thanks Ashok

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
alternatively:

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
<choice minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded">
                  <element ref="sca:metadata" />
                  <element ref="sca:body" />
            </choice>
            

         

         
 Action: anish in abstentia, to write up his ideas for Assembly-239
         

         

            
 <MartinC> 

            
me - thats a horse chestnut

         

         

            
 <MartinC> 

            
oops forgot the /

         

         

            
 <Mike Edwards> 

            
this is the current proposal in the document:

    <element name="filters" type="sca:Filter"/>
    <complexType name="Filter">
        <choice minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded">
            <element ref="sca:eventTypes" />
            <element ref="sca:body" />
            <element ref="sca:filterExtension" />
        </choice>
        <anyAttribute namespace="##other" processContents="lax"/>
    </complexType>

    <element name="eventTypes" abstract="true"/>

    <element name="eventTypes.sca" type="sca:EventType.sca"
             substitutionGroup="eventTypes"/>

    <complexType name="EventType.sca">
        <sequence>
            <any namespace="##other" processContents="lax" minOccurs="0"
            maxOccurs="unbounded"/>
        </sequence>
        <attribute name="qnames" type="sca:listOfQNames" />
        <attribute name="namespaces" type="sca:listOfAnyURIs" />
        <anyAttribute namespace="##other" processContents="lax" />
    </complexType>

    <element name="body" abstract="true"/>

    <element name="body.XPath1" type="string" substitutionGroup="body"/>

    <element name="filterExtension" abstract="true"/>
            

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
you could really use <any> and have --

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
<choice minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded">
                  <element ref="sca:eventTypes.sca" />
                  <element ref="sca:body.xpath1" />
                  <any ...>
            </choice>
            

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
arg. sorry not that one

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
the any would be outside the choice

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
something like  -- <choice minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded">
                  <element ref="sca:eventTypes.sca" />
                  <element ref="sca:body.xpath1" />
</choice>
<any ...>
            

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
i should note that i don't feel strongly about any of the alternatives. just exploring

         

         

            
Edwards:

            
It is difficult to work out how it all fits together without a complete proposal.

         

         

            
 <Eric Johnson (TIBCO)> 

            
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201201/msg00002.html

         

         

            
 <Mike Edwards> 

            
Assembly 247

         

         

            
ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247

         

         

            
Johnson:

            
email as springboard for what we ought to do http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201201/msg00002.html

         

         

            

            
Johnson discusses his email until we ran out of time

         

         

            
AOB

         

         

            

            
straggler roll

         

      

      

         
[End of Minutes]
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