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Oasis SCA-Assembly Teleconference
14 FEB 2012
Present
| Company | Name | Role |
| IBM | Edwards, Mike | Chair |
| Oracle | Chapman, Martin | Chair |
| Hitachi, Ltd. | Wells, Eric | Voting Member |
| IBM | Aupperle, Bryan | Voting Member |
| IBM | Niblett, Peter | Voting Member |
| Oracle | Karmarkar, Anish | Voting Member |
| Oracle | Malhotra, Ashok | Voting Member |
| Oracle | Pilz, Gilbert | Voting Member |
Chairs
| Martin Chapman |
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| Mike Edwards |
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Scribe
Agenda:
1. Intro
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/45068/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202012-02-07.html 3. Action Items
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2
id=2011-12-06-2 status=pending owner="EricJ" Work up initial proposal for ASSEMBLY-247
4. TC Administrivia
Discuss the completion of SCA V1.1 specification
5. 1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)
ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247 Latest email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201201/msg00002.html ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239 Peter Niblett's Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201202/msg00000.html ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233 Examples & discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00022.htmlhttp://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201111/msg00023.html Analysis in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201110/msg00014.html ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227 Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248 No proposal
8. AOB
Minutes
Opening
Roll call 8/15 = 53% Quorate
Approval of Minutes
Resolution: Minutes of 2012-02-07 approved w/o
Action Items
Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
Action: id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
Action: id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
Action: id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2
Action: id=2011-12-06-2 status=pending owner="EricJ" Work up initial proposal for ASSEMBLY-247
TC Administrivia
Completion of SCA V1.1 specification
Liason committee discussed (Chaired by SanjayP)
Do not have 2 implementations for all SCA specs
MartinC:
Some TC's have raised new issues (e.g. SCA Policy)
...not sure if these are against 1.1 or 1.2
MikeE:
Question is if 1.1 cannot be finished is there any point in continuing with 1.2?
...There maybe implementations but have not coome forward
...Change charters to allow completion? (not favoured)
...Suspend work until implementations found?
MartinC:
Real question for Assembly is do we suspend/continue with 1.2?
MikeE:
Required to have >= 1 meeting per quarter or CAN be closed by TC Admin
MartinC:
Discretionary - warning issued first - only for inactive TC's
BryanA:
We seems to be stalled on 1.2 issues anyway
MartinC:
Policy Java, Binding TC's all effectively dormant anyway
AshokM:
Is it worth making an extra effort to get additional implementations?
MikeE:
Have asked more than once and not received responses
...requires a fair ammount of effort to prove conformance
MartinC:
If vendors are selling implemantations the lack of spec could cause issues with customers
AshokM:
Actually agreeing with Bryan to suspend work
EricW:
Could continue work and replace 1.1 with 1.2?
MikeE:
No other 1.2 specs even being considered as yet
...even Tuscany doesn't have any 1.2 features
Action: owner=MikeE Send E-mail to list regarding suspention of TC work
Chairs not available next week
Resolution: Meeting scheduled for 2012-02-21 is cancelled w/o
BryanA:
Has transferred his live issues to new system
MikeE:
Will try to get OSOA site links redirected
1.2 Specification Open Issues
Note that we're missing EricJ, AnishK - probably not fair to force their issues
ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
AshokM:
Any point in pursuing if we're going to suspend work?
...would be better to decide on direction before continuing
General consensus is that we should decide on immediate future of TC before investing any more work
AOB
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