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Subject: Re: [sca-assembly] Next steps for the SCA Assembly TC
- From: Mike Edwards <mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com>
- To: OASIS Assembly <sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:26:43 +0000
Eric,
Sorry if the email is confusing.
The intention was first to paint the
overall picture and then place Jim's efforts within that picture.
We most certainly have to consider Jim's
submissions - and we shall do so on the proposed teleconference.
I did not mean to imply any deficiency
in Jim's submissions - only that they are submissions that the TC have
yet to consider (and indeed there are
parallel submissions to the other SCA TCs that also need to be considered).
On the other hand, there may be other
submissions forthcoming, so that the idea of an announced time limit
is as much
for them as for Jim (I am reminded of
the joke about buses always travelling in convoys... you wait for a conforming
runtime
and then 3 all turn up at once).
The time bounding of the work is a proposal
that we shall discuss - and the considerations that you raise are certainly
part of the discussion. Our initial
email makes a specific proposal - but it is the TC as a whole that will
make the decision
and the TC has the power to choose an
alternative timeframe.
Given the submissions to the other TCs,
I will seek to get the other TCs to meet relatively rapidly to consider
those submissions
so that we can all complete our work
efficiently.
Then we can prepare the cauldrons for
the next ocean ;-)
Yours, Mike
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From:
| Eric Johnson <eric@tibco.com>
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To:
| Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB,
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Cc:
| OASIS Assembly <sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org>
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Date:
| 12/03/2013 17:08
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Subject:
| Re: [sca-assembly] Next steps for the
SCA Assembly TC |
Hi Mike,
I'm confused by your response.
Jim Marino has, in fact, presented the evidence of conforming runtime.
If he hasn't yet, then the TC should be telling him what seems to be missing.
The tone of your email implies that Jim's submission was somehow deficient.
Yes, as a TC, we need to accept the submission, but that's different from
"if a conforming runtime is presented."
On top of that, it feels premature to put an outer bounds on how much time
must be allotted, when forward progress is constrained by the convening
of the other TCs, and the respective acceptance of the Fabric 3 submission
by those TCs.
However, I do also agree with your desire to somehow time-limit the TC.
Deadlines do help provide focus, and we all probably need to move on (and
boil the next ocean). I think it more appropriate, however, to indicate
a time such as N months after other TCs have accepted the Fabric 3 submissions,
rather than presume that all the other TCs will manage to meet in short
order, without logistical difficulties. After all, we've effectively been
on a long hiatus.
Eric.
On 3/12/13 6:44 AM, Mike Edwards wrote:
Folks
Following the recent ballot on the proposal to close the SCA Assembly TC,
which did not achieve the required
supermajority and so failed, we need to plan the next steps for the TC.
There has also been a flurry of activity and emails relating to conformance
testing of the Fabric3 runtime which
need addressing.
The idea that the chairs would like to propose is that the SCA Assembly
TC should continue working towards getting
the SCA Assembly Model specification to Committee Specification status,
but only for a limited additional period
of time. We feel that reasonable notice should be given to potential
conforming runtime owners to come forward,
but that we should not commit to continue the work of the TC indefinitely.
So, we propose that a time limit of 3 months
is used, by which time a second conforming runtime is presented to the
TC, or else we should close the TC.
If a conforming runtime is presented, then we should look to process the
SCA Assembly Model specification to
Committee Specification status (note: this could extend beyond the 3 months
discussed above, depending on
process issues...). Once Committee Specification status us reached,
then we should consider the appropriate next
steps.
In order to discuss both the Fabric3 submissions and the content of this
email, we propose to have a teleconference
of the SCA Assembly TC at the "regular" time of 08:00 Pacific
on March 26th.
Note that Bindings, Java and Policy TCs will also need to meet to discuss
their respective Fabric3 submissions,
so we suspect that there will be an overall process spanning a number of
weeks.
Comments welcome.
Yours, Mike
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Dr Mike Edwards
| Mail Point 137, Hursley
Park
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STSM
| Winchester, Hants SO21
2JN
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Cloud Computing &
Services Standards
| United Kingdom
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Chair UK ISO SC38
mirror committee (Cloud & SOA)
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Co-Chair OASIS SCA
Assembly TC
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PEPPOL eProcurement
team member
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IBM Software Group
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Phone:
| +44-1962 818014 (37248014)
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Mobile:
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