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Subject: Groups - Event "TC Conference Call" modified


Event Title: TC Conference Call

Date: Tuesday, 17 September 2013, 12:00pm to 01:00pm EDT
Description

Chat room: 

http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/sca-assembly-TC 

Dial-in: 

Full list of numbers available is here: 
https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=3308084&accessNumber=02030596451 

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Participant Code: 3308084


This meeting counts towards voter eligibility.

Agenda
1. Intro 
 
Roll call 
Scribe confirmation 
Agenda bashing 
 
2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting 
 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/event.php?event_id=35115 
 
 
3. Action Items 
 
None
 
4. New Issues
 
Remove dependencies on SCA Policy and SCA WS Binding
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/SCAASSEMBLY-8 
 
Discussion:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00005.html
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00006.html
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00007.html
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00008.html 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00009.html 
 
5. Status of other TCs
 
- Bindings
- Policy
- Java
 
6. Date of Next Meeting
 
TBD
 
7. AOB

Minutes
9/11 = Quorate 
Scribe = Mike Edwards 
Agenda Bashing 
No changes 
Item 2 Approval of Minutes from 7 May 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/event.php?event_id=35115 
Minutes are accepted without change 
Item 3 Action Items 
None 
 
Item 4 New Issues 
Remove dependencies on SCA Policy and SCA WS Binding 
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/SCAASSEMBLY-8 
Jim M discusses this new issue 
a) burden of supporting all the technologies 
b) WS not so relevant today 
Mike: which version was this issue aimed at? 
Mike:I note that V1.1 would require a supermajority vote; regular majority for a later version. 
Ashok: How much effort would be required to modify the specifications?  I think it would be a lot of work 
Anish Karmarkar: all conformant impl require that they consume wsdl interfaces (for remotable) 
Jeff: And which version is this against?  We have V1.1 & V2 (with the Event Processing stuff) 
Anish Karmarkar: but the conformant impl must be able to consume 
Discussion of the required changes implied by not supporting WS binding 
- what about support for WSDL?  That is required in parts of the spec 
- there is also the question of the test suite 
MartinC: I have to drop for another call 
Anish Karmarkar: i can't see this being a 1.1.1 
Anish Karmarkar: this is a huge change 
Anish Karmarkar: what i mean is that this is a breaking change 
 
Item 5 Status of other TCs 
  
- Bindings 
- Policy 
- Java 
Simon: Bindings TC is awaiting this discussion in Assembly 
- would affect whether specs could be moved to committee spec level 
Anish Karmarkar: i can't see what binding.ws means without assembly 
Anish Karmarkar: so, i don't think binding is being blocked by assembly 
Anish: I assume that the issue raised by Jim is about decoupling 
Mike: Bindings clearly depends on Assembly 
Anish Karmarkar: my point is that binding is not waiting on assembly for anything 
Simon: At the moment Assembly is blocked from getting to committee spec by its dependence on WS binding 
Anish Karmarkar: wrt java and bpel, exit criteria has not been met 
Anish Karmarkar: for bpel we don't have 2 impls 
Anish Karmarkar: for java, we have one impl for POJO and one for spring 
Anish Karmarkar: but spring is still a draft 
Anish Karmarkar: java and bpel TCs haven't met in a while 
 
Jim: conformance claim for Fabric3 to Policy: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-policy/email/archives/201303/msg00006.html 
 
Item 6 Date on Next Meeting
Anish Karmarkar: i'm at a f2f on 15th 
22nd October 
 
 
Item 7 AOB
None
 


Owner: Dr. Martin Chapman
Group: OASIS Service Component Architecture / Assembly (SCA-Assembly) TC
Sharing: This event is shared with the OASIS Open (General Membership), and General Public groups. Public Event Link
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SUMMARY:TC Conference Call
DESCRIPTION:\n	Chat room:
  \n	\n	http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/sca-assembly-TC
  \n	\n	Dial-in: \n	\n	Full list of numbers available is here:
  \n	https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=3308084&accessNumber=02030596451
  \n	\n	Australia Toll-Free 1-800-85-4950 Caller Paid
  0-2-80318490\n	Austria Toll-Free 0800-07-0079 Caller Paid
  0-1-2530601\n	Belgium Toll-Free 0800-3-9022 Caller Paid
  0-2-8946410\n	Brazil Toll-Free 0800-890-0288
  888-426-6840\n	Bulgaria Toll-Free 00800-117-4514 \n	Canada
  Toll-Free 888-426-6840 \n	Chile Toll-Free 1230-020-0719
  \n	China Toll-Free 4001-201-478\n	Czech Republic Toll-Free
  800-143-484 Caller Paid 2-39016353\n	Denmark Toll-Free
  80-717000 Caller Paid 32711870\n	Finland Toll-Free
  0800-9-18357 Caller Paid 0-9-72519565\n	France Toll-Free
  0800-94-0558 Caller Paid 0-170911580\n	Germany Toll-Free
  0800-000-1018 Caller Paid 0-69-2443-2290 \n	Greece Toll-Free
  00-800-11-006-7783 \n	Hungary Toll-Free 06-800-19-306 Caller
  Paid 0-1-7789195\n	India FIXED LINE Caller Paid
  33-558-811\n	India MOBILE Caller Paid 0-XX-33-558-811 XX=2
  DIGIT CITY CODE\n	India MOBILE Caller Paid 0-XXX-33-558-81
  XXX=3 DIGIT CITY CODE\n	Ireland Toll-Free 1-800-943-427
  Caller Paid 0-1-5264424\n	Italy Toll-Free 800-975100 Caller
  Paid 0-2-00621263\n	Japan Caller Paid 0-3-64042596\n	Japan
  Toll-Free 00531-11-0086 - JAPAN KDD USERS \n	Japan Toll-Free
  0066-33-830321 - JAPAN C&W USERS \n	Japan Toll-Free
  0034-800-900377 - JAPAN NTT USERS \n	South Korea Toll-Free
  00798-1-1-006-7783 Caller Paid 0-2-348-31399\n	Mexico
  Toll-Free 888-426-6840\n	Netherlands Toll-Free
  0-800-363-6036 Caller Paid 0-20-7996800\n	Norway Toll-Free
  800-16771 Caller Paid 23162149\n	Portugal Toll-Free
  800-7-80880 \n	Romania Toll-Free 0-800-896910 \n	South
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  Caller Paid 9-1-7878580\n	Sweden Toll-Free 0200-12-5807
  Caller Paid 0-8-50515100\n	Switzerland Toll-Free
  0800-89-4800 Caller Paid 0-43-2101240\n	United Kingdom
  Toll-Free 0800-368-0638 Caller Paid 0-20-30596451\n	USA
  Toll-Free 888-426-6840 Caller Paid 215-861-6239
  \n	\n	Participant Code: 3308084\n\nAgenda: \n	1. Intro \n\n	
  \n\n	Roll call \n\n	Scribe confirmation \n\n	Agenda bashing
  \n\n	 \n\n	2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly
  TC meeting \n\n	
  \n\n	https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/event.php?event_id=35115
  \n\n	 \n\n	 \n\n	3. Action Items \n\n	 \n\n	None\n\n	
  \n\n	4. New Issues\n\n	 \n\n	Remove dependencies on SCA
  Policy and SCA WS
  Binding\n\n	https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/SCAASSEMBLY-8
  \n\n	
  \n\n	Discussion:\n\n	https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00005.html\n\n	https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00006.html\n\n	https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00007.html\n\n	https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00008.html
  \n\n	https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201309/msg00009.html
  \n\n	 \n\n	5. Status of other TCs\n\n	 \n\n	- Bindings\n\n	-
  Policy\n\n	- Java\n\n	 \n\n	6. Date of Next Meeting\n\n	
  \n\n	TBD\n\n	 \n\n	7. AOB\nGroup: OASIS Service Component
  Architecture / Assembly (SCA-Assembly) TC\nCreator: Dr.
  Martin Chapman
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