draft minutes from call 10/25/2007

[Michael Beisiegel <mbgl@us.ibm.com>]

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Michael Beisiegel: 1. Opening

Introductions
Roll call
Scribe assignment

Top 10 on the scribe list (full list below):
Dale Moberg Axway Software
Reza Shafii BEA Systems, Inc.
William Barnhill Booz Allen Hamilton
Jeff Anderson Deloitte Consulting LLP
Jacques Durand Fujitsu Limited
Graham Barber IBM
Michael Beisiegel IBM
Mike Edwards IBM

Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Binding TC meeting of 18th October

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/25854/minutes2007-10-18.doc

3. Errata for the JMS Binding Spec

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200710/msg00095.html

4. Open Issue Discussion

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-5
JMS bindingType and atLeastOne intent overlaps with setting JMSDeliveryMode

Latest email in thread:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/email/archives/200710/msg00060.html

5. AOB 
Sanjay: Agenda:
1. Opening 

Introductions 
Roll call 
Scribe assignment 

Top 10 on the scribe list (full list below): 
Dale Moberg Axway Software 
Reza Shafii BEA Systems, Inc. 
William Barnhill Booz Allen Hamilton 
Jeff Anderson Deloitte Consulting LLP 
Jacques Durand Fujitsu Limited 
Graham Barber IBM 
Michael Beisiegel IBM 
Mike Edwards IBM 

Agenda bashing 

2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Binding TC meeting of 18th October 

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/25854/minutes2007-10-18.doc

3. Errata for the JMS Binding Spec 

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200710/msg00095.html

4. Open Issue Discussion 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-5
JMS bindingType and atLeastOne intent overlaps with setting JMSDeliveryMode

 Latest email in thread:
 http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/email/archives/200710/msg00060.html

5. AOB 
Sanjay: Perhaps people have dialed into the other bridge?
anonymous morphed into Piotr Przybylski 
Michael Beisiegel: Scribe: Michael Beisiegel
Michael Beisiegel: Topic 2: 
Michael Beisiegel: Khandereao: moves to  accept the minutes
Michael Beisiegel: Eric Johnson: seconds 
Michael Beisiegel: resolution: accepted unanimously
Michael Beisiegel: Back to Agenda bashing
Michael Beisiegel: no objectsions 
Michael Beisiegel: Topic 3: 
Michael Beisiegel: Mik R: suggestion, to give editors the direction
to add errata to spec 
Michael Beisiegel: Martin C: motion to adopt the recommendationn to
this proposals, and that the editors put it into the current working draft
Michael Beisiegel: Bryan Auppele: seconds
Michael Beisiegel: dicussion 
Michael Beisiegel: Eric Johnson: whether we should open this as an
issue 
Michael Beisiegel: resolution: accepted unanimously
Michael Beisiegel: Topic 4: 
Michael Beisiegel: BINDINGS-5 
Michael Beisiegel: Peter P: prefers Michael R's proposal
Michael Beisiegel: Mike R: you have to fish around in binding def on
whether something conflicst with intents 
Michael Beisiegel: Action: Peter P to create proposal description according
to Mike R's proposal 
Michael Beisiegel: BINDINGS-3 
Michael Beisiegel: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-3
Michael Beisiegel: Martin C suggest to also not caps it in titles
Michael Beisiegel: ... only when 1st word in sentence or heading
Michael Beisiegel: Mike R suggest to proposal in issue text
Michael Beisiegel: Martin C suggest to say document instead of section
Michael Rowley: Change "PortType" to "portType"
except where being used as part of a section heading that naturally capitalizes
words. References to "PortType" found throughout the document.
Michael Beisiegel: Eric: moves 
Michael Beisiegel: Martin: seconds 
Michael Beisiegel: resolution accepted unanimously
Michael Rowley: http://www.osoa.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&mode=hide&pid=10022
Michael Beisiegel: BINDINGS-9 
Michael Beisiegel: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-9
Michael Beisiegel: Eric: text is not precise enough
Michael Beisiegel: Mike R: things it is sufficient for the editors
to craft the text 
Michael Beisiegel: no editors on call to agree with this or not
Michael Beisiegel: Mike R: editors can always come back asking for
more instructions 
Michael Beisiegel: Martin C: moves to adopt the proposal, and let the
editors do the right thing 
Michael Beisiegel: Khanderao: seconds 
Michael Beisiegel: Simon N: how did we find out that they did the right
thing 
Michael Beisiegel: Martin: the new draft would be reviewed
Michael Beisiegel: Simon N: is there a state after applied
Michael Beisiegel: Simon N: is there a state after applied
Michael Beisiegel: Martin C: its issue close
Michael Beisiegel: resolution: accepted unanimously
Michael Beisiegel:   
Michael Rowley: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/email/archives/200710/msg00063.html
Michael Beisiegel: next topics suggestion, ns or ordered intents
Michael Beisiegel: that was Mike R's suggestion
Michael Beisiegel: Eric prefers discussion on ns
Michael Beisiegel: cont with ns discussion, one ns, or one per binding
Michael Beisiegel: Martin suggest the java ones should go where the
java c&i one goes re ns 
Martin C: i suggest one single namespace for all java specifc xml (from
bondings and j tc) excpet for implementation types
Martin C: s/bondin/bindin/ 
Michael Beisiegel: thx 
Michael Beisiegel: Sanjai feels destionation, connection factory ...
dont fit in the common ns 
Martin C: agree with sanjay and those defs might be shared between
jms and jca 
Michael Beisiegel: Action: Martin to formulate issue to bindings group
Michael Beisiegel: meeting adjourned

SCA Bindings minutes 2007-10-25.doc