raw chat log thurs 14 May 09

Simon Holdsworth: Audio conference:

Meeting Number: * 913929 * (press * before and after the digits)

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Simon Holdsworth: Agenda

Simon Holdsworth: 1. Opening

Introductions

Roll call

Scribe assignment

Top 10 on the scribe list:

Jeff Mischkinsky Oracle Corporation

Plamen Pavlov SAP AG

Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation

Piotr Przybylski IBM

Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation

David Booz IBM

Bryan Aupperle IBM

Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc.

Simon Nash Individual

Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation

Agenda bashing

2. Approval of the minutes from 7th May

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32460/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202009-05-07.doc

3. Actions

20090211-4 [General] Write up HTTP binding use cases

20090311-2 [Editors] Update specs for new assembly namespace

20090312-1 [Editors] Update schemas in specs as per http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00057.html

20090430-1 [David Booz] Submit updated proposal for issue BINDINGS-72

20090507-1 [Simon Nash] Submit updated proposal for issue BINDINGS-23

20090507-2 [Eric Johnson] Submit updated proposal for issue BINDINGS-54

4. New Issues

Please note, as per resolution on 9th October 2008, new issues received on the mailing list after Noon GMT 1st November can only be opened using the same voting rules as re-opening a closed issue (2/3 majority of a full TC vote)

no new issues

5. Open Issue Summary/Schedule

Discuss ownership/deferral of issues.

Current schedule:

Must have issues resolved by April 16th

Public review draft available for TC comments April 23rd

Public review draft vote April 30th

Test assertions complete one month beyond PRD, test cases one month after that.

Issues with proposed resolutions: 5

Issues with identified owner, no resolution: 0

Issues with no identified owner: 0

Survey outlook for issues with no proposed resolution (marked with * in this list)

Eric Johnson: 54 (pri 1)

Simon Nash: 23 (pri 1)

Anish Karmarkar: 2 (pri 2)

David Booz: 72* (pri 2)

Simon Holdsworth: 48 (pri 3)

6. Conformance statement numbering

Discuss/agree on the updates to the JCA spec for issue 63.

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/31989/sca-binding-jca-1.1-spec-cd02-issue63.doc

7. Open Issue Discussion

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-23

@wsdlElement definition needs clarification on "equivalent" and use of WSDL 2.0 constructs

Raiser: Eric Johnson, owner: Simon Nash

Priority: 1

Status: Latest proposed resolution: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200905/msg00040.html

Latest email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200905/msg00051.html

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-54

Endpoint URI algorithm is unclear

Raiser: Eric Johnson, owner: Eric Johnson

Priority: 1

Status: Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200905/msg00045.html

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-2

How should SCA callback semantics be carried over Web Services?

Raiser: Simon Nash, owner: Anish Karmarkar

Priority: 2

Status: Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200905/msg00046.html

Latest email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200905/msg00048.html

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-48

How are mayProvide intents on bindings satisfied

Raiser: Ashok Malhotra, owner: Simon Holdsworth

Priority: 3

Status: Proposed resolution: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00005.html

Latest email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00059.html

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-72

The qualifiers of the SOAP intent (1_1 and 1_2) should be defined to be mutually exclusive

Raiser: David Booz, owner: David Booz

Priority: TBC

Status: Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200905/msg00039.html

7. AOB

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*Revolving list of scribes*

Jeff Mischkinsky Oracle Corporation

Plamen Pavlov SAP AG

Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation

Piotr Przybylski IBM

Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation

David Booz IBM

Bryan Aupperle IBM

Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc.

Simon Nash Individual

Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation

Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited

Martin C: Scribe: Martin c

Martin C: Topic: minutes

Martin C: Approval of the minutes from 7th May

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32460/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202009-05-07.doc

Martin C: No objections, approved w/o

Martin C: Topic: Agenda

Martin C: add new issue 73 under new issues section

Martin C: Topic: Action items

Martin C: 20090211-4 [General] Write up HTTP binding use cases

20090311-2 [Editors] Update specs for new assembly namespace

20090312-1 [Editors] Update schemas in specs as per http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00057.html

Martin C: above all pending

Martin C: rest all done

Martin C: Topic: New issues

Martin C: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-73

Martin C: Simon N introduces the issue

Martin C: Dave: doesnt think change is needed

Martin C: Dave: happy of the title changes to not imply a solution

Martin C: s/of/for/

Simon Nash: default qualifier of 1_1 for SOAP intent contradicts WS Binding spec

Martin C: change the title of issue 73 to the abive

Martin C: Simon moves to open 73 with amended title, 2nd anish

Martin C: passed w/o

Martin C: (eric has already updated the title in jira)

Martin C: Simon H: what is the priority of this, do we need to reolve before PR

Martin C: should be recorded as priority 1

Martin C: Topic: additional call

Martin C: should we have one to speed up resolutions

Martin C: Proposal for weds 20th @ 11 eastern, 4pm UK

Martin C: Simon H to schedule a 1 hour call for weds 20th

Martin C: Topic: conformance statement numbering

Martin C: Topic: issues

Martin C: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-23

Simon Nash: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200905/msg00040.html

anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200905/doc00002.doc

Martin C: Simon presents doc00002.doc

Simon Nash: MUST raise an error if it does not support the configuration of at least one of....

anish: what about: MUST raise an error if it does support the configuration of none of....

anish sorry, that doesn't work</B< pre>

Mike Edwards: And I'm Welsh

Simon Nash: MUST raise an error if there are no available ports that it supports.

Dave Booz go figure</B< pre>

Martin C boyo</B< pre>

anish: ... MUST raise an error if there are no available ports, as specified in WSDL,that it supports

Simon Nash: MUST raise an error if there are no available WSDL ports that it supports.

Eric Johnson: (Note: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-3)

Martin C: Simon has a few changes to make based on discussion and will send a new version out for discussion next week

Martin C: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-72

The qualifiers of the SOAP intent (1_1 and 1_2) should be defined to be mutually exclusive

Raiser: David Booz, owner: David Booz

Priority: TBC

Status: Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200905/msg00039.html

Martin C: Mike E motion, 2nd dave: resolve issue 72 with proposal in jira

Martin C: passed w/o

Martin C: Topic: AOB

Martin C: stragler role: plamen

Dave Booz: i will communicate Binding-72 to the policy TC

Martin C: next call next wednesday in addition to next thursday call

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