Re: [sca-bindings] Re: CD02 packages for SCA Bindings specs ready forpublication

[Simon Holdsworth <simon_holdsworth@uk.ibm.com>]

Mary, what is the issue with having
both forms of "latest" URL working?

With CD02, we have the following files
that are published, for example for binding.jms:

Existing URLs for published CD01 version:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd01.html
http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd01.doc
http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd01.pdf

Within those documents, the latest version
URLs:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec.html
http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec.doc
http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec.pdf

Requested URLs for published CD02 version:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec-cd02.html
http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec-cd02.doc
http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec-cd02.pdf

Requested latest URLs:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec.html
http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec.doc
http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec.pdf

So in order to support the new spelling
of the latest URLs, I agree that we should not change the existing documents.
 That means that we need to:

1) make the existing latest URLs point
at the CD02 versions of the documents.   I assume you would have to
do that anyway.
2) create new latest URLs that point
at the CD02 versions of the documents.   This does entail some duplication
of work if it not possible to redirect the URLs in 1) to these as a one-off
process.

Regards, Simon

Simon Holdsworth
STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair
MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com

Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>

28/05/2009 15:16

To	Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>
cc	Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM@IBMGB, sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject	Re: [sca-bindings] Re: CD02 packages for SCA Bindings specs ready for publication

Hi Anish,

   It has nothing to do with Kavi; these files are in a separate web
 
space. It's an IT decision / access / management issue.

Mary






On May 28, 2009, at 1:01 AM, Anish Karmarkar wrote:

> Mary McRae wrote:
>> Hi Simon,
>>  I'm sorry - it looks like that never made it into my queue.
My  
>> apologies!
>>  We can't change the name of the latest version once established
-  
>> that breaks the reasoning behind them. We never edit files once
 
>> they've been uploaded, and we have no idea how many people may
have  
>> downloaded the file and will expect the link to work going forward.
 
>> We also don't support redirects.
>
> Why not?
> Is that a limitation of KAVI or is it a OASIS policy.
> Not supporting redirects on the Web seems very strange to me.
>
> -Anish
> --
>
>>  It's okay that the current filename and the latest version
 
>> filename are slightly different from my perspective; in all  
>> likelihood people are clicking on the link and not paying too
much  
>> attention to the filename. The new filename doesn't seem to be
that  
>> different from the old one that should someone have downloaded
the  
>> file, they would be misled by the naming.
>>  Let me know if you want me to edit the files or if you will
 
>> provide updated copies for uploading.
>> Regards,
>> Mary
>> Mary P McRae
>> Director, Standards Development
>> Technical Committee Administrator
>> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
>> email: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
 
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>> Standards are like parachutes: they work best when they're open.
>> On May 22, 2009, at 5:17 AM, Simon Holdsworth wrote:
>>>
>>> Mary,
>>>
>>> I sent this note some time ago, but did not get a response,
and I  
>>> can't see any of the updated versions available on the OASIS
site.
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate it if you could let me know when these updated
 
>>> versions of the specifications will be published.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Simon
>>>
>>> Simon Holdsworth
>>> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings
 
>>> TC Chair
>>> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
>>> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
>>> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com <mailto:Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
>>> >
>>> ----- Forwarded by Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM on 22/05/2009 10:16
-----
>>> *Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM*
>>>
>>> 02/03/2009 11:27
>>>
>>>                
 
>>> To
>>>                
 <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>>
>>> cc
>>>                
 
>>> Subject
>>>                
 CD02 packages for SCA Bindings specs ready for publication
>>>
>>>
>>>                
 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mary,
>>>
>>> I have prepared the following packages for publication containing
 
>>> the CD02 versions of the SCA bindings specs, and would appreciate
 
>>> it if you could publish them on the OASIS website:
>>>
>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/31480/sca-binding-ws-1.1-spec-cd02.zip
>>>
>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/31479/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec-cd02.zip
>>>
>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/31478/sca-binding-jca-1.1-spec-cd02.zip
>>>
>>> The only specific note I have is that we changed the naming
of  
>>> these documents, so that the latest link on the old cd01 pages,
 
>>> which currently point to (for example):
>>>
>>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-spec.html
>>>
>>>
>>> now need to point to:
>>>
>>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-ws-1.1-spec.html
>>>  <http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-spec.html
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess that can be done by redirecting the 3 URLs or modifying
 
>>> the 3 cd01 HTML pages for WS, JMS and JCA bindings.
>>>
>>> The cd02 packages all point to this latest URL.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Simopn
>>>
>>> Simon Holdsworth
>>> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings
 
>>> TC Chair
>>> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
>>> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
>>> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com <mailto:Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
>>> >
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