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Subject: Re: [sca-bindings] Re: CD02 packages for SCA Bindings specs readyfor publication
Simon Holdsworth wrote: > > I still don't really see the issue with additional symlinks for the new > form of the latest URLs - we're only talking 3 links, and the old forms > could be pointed at the new forms as a one-off operation. > > However if there's no way that can be done, it looks like we are stuck > with our choice of "latest" url file name for the lifetime of SCA 1.1, > which is unfortunate. > > That leaves us with a couple of choices: > > 1) Just use the old "latest" URLs; Update the CD02 packages to use to > "old" form of the latest URL, and just keep using that. > 2) Stop using the new file names altogether; update the CD02 packages to > change all file names to the old forms, and post updated cd02-rev3 > documents with the old forms of the file names. > > 1) is least effort but does mean that the latest URLs are not of the > same form as the current ones. Lets discuss this on Thursday and agree > what the TC wants to do with this. > The different in efforts isn't much. I do like the consistency provided by option (2). -Anish -- > Regards, Simon > > Simon Holdsworth > STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair > MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK > Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898 > Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com > > > *Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>* > > 28/05/2009 16:34 > > > To > Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM@IBMGB > cc > Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>, > sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject > Re: [sca-bindings] Re: CD02 packages for SCA Bindings specs ready for > publication > > > > > > > > > Hi Simon, > > The URLs for latest are not intended to be changed once established. I > maintain a single set of symlinks for each specification. > > Regards, > > Mary > > > > > > > > On May 28, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Simon Holdsworth wrote: > > > Mary, what is the issue with having both forms of "latest" URL working? > > With CD02, we have the following files that are published, for example > for binding.jms: > > Existing URLs for published CD01 version: > _ > __http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd01.html_ > _ > __http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd01.doc_ > _ > __http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd01.pdf_ > > > Within those documents, the latest version URLs: > _ > __http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec.html_ > _ > __http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec.doc_ > _ > __http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec.pdf_ > > > Requested URLs for published CD02 version: > _ > __http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec-cd02.html_ > _ > __http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec-cd02.doc_ > _ > __http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec-cd02.pdf_ > > > Requested latest URLs: > _ > __http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec.html_ > _ > __http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec.doc_ > _ > __http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec.pdf_ > > > So in order to support the new spelling of the latest URLs, I agree that > we should not change the existing documents. That means that we need to: > > 1) make the existing latest URLs point at the CD02 versions of the > documents. I assume you would have to do that anyway. > 2) create new latest URLs that point at the CD02 versions of the > documents. This does entail some duplication of work if it not > possible to redirect the URLs in 1) to these as a one-off process. > > Regards, Simon > > Simon Holdsworth > STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair > MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK > Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898 > Internet - _Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com_ > <mailto:Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com> > > *Mary McRae <**_mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org_* > <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*>* > > 28/05/2009 15:16 > > > To > Anish Karmarkar <_Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com_ > <mailto:Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>> > cc > Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM@IBMGB, _sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org_ > <mailto:sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org> > Subject > Re: [sca-bindings] Re: CD02 packages for SCA Bindings specs ready for > publication > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Anish, > > It has nothing to do with Kavi; these files are in a separate web > space. It's an IT decision / access / management issue. > > Mary > > > > > > > On May 28, 2009, at 1:01 AM, Anish Karmarkar wrote: > > > Mary McRae wrote: > >> Hi Simon, > >> I'm sorry - it looks like that never made it into my queue. My > >> apologies! > >> We can't change the name of the latest version once established - > >> that breaks the reasoning behind them. We never edit files once > >> they've been uploaded, and we have no idea how many people may have > >> downloaded the file and will expect the link to work going forward. > >> We also don't support redirects. > > > > Why not? > > Is that a limitation of KAVI or is it a OASIS policy. > > Not supporting redirects on the Web seems very strange to me. > > > > -Anish > > -- > > > >> It's okay that the current filename and the latest version > >> filename are slightly different from my perspective; in all > >> likelihood people are clicking on the link and not paying too much > >> attention to the filename. The new filename doesn't seem to be that > >> different from the old one that should someone have downloaded the > >> file, they would be misled by the naming. > >> Let me know if you want me to edit the files or if you will > >> provide updated copies for uploading. > >> Regards, > >> Mary > >> Mary P McRae > >> Director, Standards Development > >> Technical Committee Administrator > >> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society > >> email: _mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org_ > <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> <_mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org_> > >> web: _www.oasis-open.org_ <http://www.oasis-open.org/> > <_http://www.oasis-open.org_ <http://www.oasis-open.org/>> > >> twitter: fiberartisan #oasisopen > >> phone: 1.603.232.9090 > >> Standards are like parachutes: they work best when they're open. > >> On May 22, 2009, at 5:17 AM, Simon Holdsworth wrote: > >>> > >>> Mary, > >>> > >>> I sent this note some time ago, but did not get a response, and I > >>> can't see any of the updated versions available on the OASIS site. > >>> > >>> I'd appreciate it if you could let me know when these updated > >>> versions of the specifications will be published. > >>> > >>> Thanks, Simon > >>> > >>> Simon Holdsworth > >>> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings > >>> TC Chair > >>> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK > >>> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898 > >>> Internet - _Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com_ > <mailto:Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com> <_mailto:Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com_ > >>> > > >>> ----- Forwarded by Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM on 22/05/2009 10:16 ----- > >>> *Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM* > >>> > >>> 02/03/2009 11:27 > >>> > >>> > >>> To > >>> <_mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org_ > <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> <_mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org_>> > >>> cc > >>> > >>> Subject > >>> CD02 packages for SCA Bindings specs ready for > publication > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Mary, > >>> > >>> I have prepared the following packages for publication containing > >>> the CD02 versions of the SCA bindings specs, and would appreciate > >>> it if you could publish them on the OASIS website: > >>> > >>> > _http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/31480/sca-binding-ws-1.1-spec-cd02.zip_ > >>> > >>> > _http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/31479/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec-cd02.zip_ > >>> > >>> > _http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/31478/sca-binding-jca-1.1-spec-cd02.zip_ > >>> > >>> The only specific note I have is that we changed the naming of > >>> these documents, so that the latest link on the old cd01 pages, > >>> which currently point to (for example): > >>> > >>> > _http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-spec.html_ > >>> > >>> > >>> now need to point to: > >>> > >>> > _http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-ws-1.1-spec.html_ > > >>> > <_http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-spec.html_ > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> I guess that can be done by redirecting the 3 URLs or modifying > >>> the 3 cd01 HTML pages for WS, JMS and JCA bindings. > >>> > >>> The cd02 packages all point to this latest URL. > >>> > >>> Thanks, Simopn > >>> > >>> Simon Holdsworth > >>> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings > >>> TC Chair > >>> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK > >>> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898 > >>> Internet - _Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com_ > <mailto:Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com> <_mailto:Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com_ > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > >>> / > >>> / > >>> > >>> /Unless stated otherwise above: > >>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with > >>> number 741598. > >>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire > >>> PO6 3AU/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > >>> / > >>> / > >>> > >>> /Unless stated otherwise above: > >>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with > >>> number 741598. > >>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire > >>> PO6 3AU/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > / > / > > /Unless stated otherwise above: > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number > 741598. > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU/ > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > / > / > > /Unless stated otherwise above: > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number > 741598. > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU/ > > > > > >
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