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Subject: Re: [sca-bindings] JCA & JMS specs
- From: Simon Holdsworth <simon_holdsworth@uk.ibm.com>
- To: OASIS Bindings <sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:21:32 +0100
Eric, thanks for the comments, responses
inline; I've uploaded JMS binding cd02-rev3 with editorial changes as identified.
Here's the diff between rev3 and original
cd02:
Eric Johnson <eric@tibco.com> wrote on 17/06/2009
20:07:49:
> PDF for JMS does not hyperlink normative statements, references, nor
> does it have a table of contents. (Weirdness - Okular the KDE
4.X
> PDF view, does not link the URLs at the beginning of the document,
> but Adobe Reader does)
OK, this seems to be an issue with my using Word 2003
and cute PDF to generate the PDF documents :( Unfortunately I don't
have any other means of doing so.
> The specifications overall are inconsistent about typographical
> conventions for referring to elements and attributes. The WS
> Binding spec doesn't do anything special, but the JMS spec appears
to use
> bold/italic when referring to an element or attribute. For
> comparison, I checked with the Assembly spec, and it seems
> inconsistent, sometimes it uses bold/italic, however sometimes the
> Assembly spec refers to "foo element", and sometimes it
refers to "foo
> element". I also note places in Assembly where bold and
italic are
> not applied.
>
> Some clarity on what we should do might be useful.
I agree, although I think that's something we can defer until after after
the public review draft. I did note some formatting concerns a few
months ago, about fonts and default para formats being inconsistent across
the specs. i've tried to be consistent in the JMS binding spec with
bold/italic for all element/attribute names.
> Also, we might want to define a standard for references - do we want
> to include the title of the reference with the first reference to
> it, or not. The WS Binding spec generally cuts to the chase,
and I
> have a personal preference for that. That is, do we do "SCA
> Assembly Specification [SCA-Assembly]", or just "[SCA-Assembly]"?
I agree with Mike Edwards's comment that it would
be best to have the name of the link and then the token in all cases. I've
done that in a couple of places in the updated JMS binding revision.
> JMS spec: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.
> php/32790/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec-cd02-rev2.pdf
>
> line 134: "... the generic JMS binding type. The type..."
> Technically, it is an element. --> "... the generic
JMS binding
> element. The element...".
Applied.
> line 137, 158, 159, 160, 333-334: " as defined in the SCA Assembly
> Specification [SCA-Assembly]" --> " as defined in [SCA-Assembly]"
As per the above, I've ensured it appears as SCA Assembly
Specification [SCA-Assembly] everywhere
> line 145: the proposed IETF JMS scheme doesn't follow this pattern.
> Instead it follows "jms:jndi:<jms-dest>?..."
OK, I've made the example consistent at least with
the 05 revision of the URI syntax
> Shame-faced confession: If you go and look for the IETF proposal,
at
> the moment, you will not find it.
Google on draft-merrick-jms-uri-05.txt ;)
> We were going to update it a few
> weeks back (before the previous draft expired), when we discovered
> that IETF changed their legal disclosure requirements. That
sent a
> bunch of us scrambling to talk to lawyers to make sure we do the
> right thing. I should be posting a new version by some time
next
> week - of course, since the old one expired, I might find some new
> hurdle to overcome that will delay this slightly.
>
> Note that issue 20, we resolved to follow the IETF here. Do
we need
> another issue to update this again? Of course, it is probably
hard
> to follow the IETF proposal, when it isn't even available...
For the moment I don't think we can do any better
than is in the footnote
> lines 524 - 529: In other places, rather than have such a large
> normative statement, we've created a definition of a notion, and
> then had a normative statement referring to that notion.
OK, I've split out the definition of the callback
destination outside the normative statement.
> line 731: I thought we had agreed that normative statements in the
> conformance section don't get numbered. Hmmm, maybe that's an
open issue?
Yes, this is issue 74, latest email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200906/msg00036.html
> JCA spec: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.
> php/32791/sca-binding-jca-1.1-spec-cd02-rev2.pdf
>
> Table of contents shows "Error: Bookmark not defined"
I think this is probably the same issue with Word
2003 and CutePDF...
> (Looks like I've run out of time for today, and won't get to the
> rest of JCA before tomorrow's meeting)
>
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