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Subject: Re: [sca-bindings] Review of sca-binding-ws-spec-cd02-rev3.pdf


Simon Holdsworth wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> Thanks for reviewing these documents in detail.  I think it would be 
> worth discussing some of these formatting issues, but do we feel that 
> this needs to be done prior to public review?

IMHO: no.
I would also like to see consistency across the SCA spec. I don't think 
we should change it only for the bindings specs.

-Anish
--

>  I think we need to 
> resolve the following issues:
> 
> http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-74 JMS and JCA binding 
> conformance section insufficient (JMS)
> http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-75 JMS and JCA binding 
> conformance section insufficient (JCA)
> http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-76 binding.ws schema uses ##any 
> instead of ##other
> http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-77 binding.jms schema uses for 
> schema attribute extensibility
> http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-78 binding.jca schema uses 
> ##any instead of ##other
> 
> In addition sorting out editorial problems where the documents are 
> broken, and publish asap after that, ideally on next weeks call - June 
> 25th.  We can then discuss these concerns during the public review 
> period while we get the test assertions/testcase work started.
> 
> Regards, Simon
> 
> Simon Holdsworth
> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair
> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
> 
> 
> *Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB*
> 
> 18/06/2009 08:00
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> Folks,
> 
> Some comments inline...
> 
> Yours,  Mike.
> 
> Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.
> Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
> IBM Hursley Park, Mail Point 146, Winchester, SO21 2JN, Great Britain.
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> From: 	Eric Johnson <eric@tibco.com>
> To: 	OASIS Bindings <sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Date: 	17/06/2009 18:33
> Subject: 	[sca-bindings] Review of sca-binding-ws-spec-cd02-rev3.pdf
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> 
> As I'm trying to read through these documents, I find the highlighting 
> of the normative statements is actually quite annoying.  It makes it 
> much harder to read the document.  In addition, I had to force my PDF 
> viewer to no color, because the default "highlight" color with my 
> windowing theme exactly matches the highlight color chosen for the 
> document, and searching for a result in a normative statement would then 
> not show where the search result was found.  My suggestion would be to 
> change the color of the normative text itself to a gray just shy of 
> black, rather than changing the background color of the text.
> *
> <mje>I'm probably biased, since this form of marking was started by me. 
>  However, I think that background highlighting is essential - merely 
> changing the font colour is ineffective to the point of uselessness.  We 
> can debate the highlight colour - if this bright yellow is too painful 
> for the eyes, we can choose a more subdued colour.</mje>*
> 
> Also seems to me that the normative numbering declarations could be 
> superscripted, so that it is easier to read the text and let my eyes 
> skip over the reference numbering.*
> <mje>This I simply don't agree with. It's fine as it is, in my 
> opinion.</mje>*
> Those are just my personal preferences, though.
> 
> Line 101-103 - sentence is repeated.
> 
> Line 207: "WSDL 1.1 message parts can point to an XML Schema element 
> declaration or an XML Schema type."  Mismatched parallelism.  Ought to 
> be "... can point /either /to an XML Schema element declaration or /to 
> /an XML Schema type/ declaration/."
> 
> Line 219: "Port" --> "port"
> 
> Line 265 - 266: "SCA runtime implementations MAY provide additional 
> metadata that is associated with a web service binding."  Unfortunately, 
> this sentence seems so out of context to me, that it is difficult to 
> figure out what it was actually referring to.  Are we talking here about 
> providing additional metadata in the generated WSDL document?  That 
> would push section 2.5 to be section 2.4.1.  However, I think what we 
> really mean here is that we really mean that an SCA binding.ws element 
> might contain additional metadata to help configure non-SCA aspects of a 
> web-services binding.  However, that's not a normative constraint on the 
> runtime, so then I don't get the normative statement.
> 
> I think I need to raise an issue for the above.  Am I missing something?*
> <mje>No, you're not missing anything.  This is a normative statement too 
> far.  It is simply redundant and unecessary.  The schema definition says 
> everything normative here.* *
> I'd change the MAY to a "can" and reduce this to a simple factual 
> statement.</mje>*
> 
> Line 306: "... web service binding is configured with a policy intent(s) 
> ..." --> "... web service binding is configured with /any /policy 
> /intent /...*
> +1*
> Should we swap sections 3 & 4, especially since section 3 makes 
> reference to details specified by section 4?*
> +1*
> Line 443-444: Parallelism again: "MUST follow either the rpc-literal or 
> document-literal pattern." --> "MUST follow either the rpc-literal 
> /pattern/ or /the/ document-literal pattern."
> 
> Line 461: "of “Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP) 1.1” [SOAP11] " --> 
> This is an inconsistent reference.  So far as I've discovered, we don't 
> inline the titles of the target of the reference elsewhere, so this 
> should change to just "of [SOAP11]".*
> <mje>On this point, I have the opposite point of view.  I prefer to 
> spell out the name of the target document in all these locations.  The 
> [xxxx] tag is intended to be a reference link to the place at the top of 
> the document where the location of that referenced document is actually 
> held.  It isn't meant to be a readable part of the document text. </mje>*
> Thankfully, all but one of the above are editorial...
> 
> -Eric.
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