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Subject: Raw Chat from SCA Bindings Telcon May 13, 2010
*Raw Chat from SCA Bindings Telcon May 13, 2010 [9:01] **Simon Holdsworth:* Audio conference: Meeting Number: * 913929 * (press * before and after the digits) *[9:01] **Simon Holdsworth:* 1. Opening Introductions Roll call Scribe assignment Top of the scribe list: Plamen Pavlov SAP AG Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation David Booz IBM Laurent Domenech TIBCO Software Inc. Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation Bryan Aupperle IBM Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc. Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited Agenda bashing 2. Approval of the minutes from 6th May: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37764/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202010-05-06.doc 3. Actions 20090211-4 [General] Write up HTTP binding use cases 4. New Issues No new issues 5. JMS/JCA binding specification publication status. Discuss appropriate text for "Editors" on the title page of the JMS and JCA binding specs cd04/pr02. 6. Discuss proposed TC schedule Updated following discussion on call of 6th May. Consider date by which open issues are to be closed or deferred; also consider raising open vote to 2/3. 13th May: Initial test cases ready for review/discussion 20th May: CD/PR vote for WS binding spec 27th May: Test cases complete 3rd June: CD/PR vote on TA documents and test cases 7. WS binding CD vote Possible CD/PR vote today, otherwise deadline is 20th May 8. Test cases Discuss possible cd01 vote for TA documents. Discuss any existing test cases/issues with test cases. Initial JMS Binding Test Cast document: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37795/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-testcases-wd01.odt Discuss how to proceed with test case production. 9. Open issue discussion http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-111 binding.jms uses JMS URI scheme even though it is not a valid IETF internet draft Raiser: Eric Johnson, owner: Unassigned Priority: Unassigned Status: Pending response from Oracle with respect to approval of the IETF draft http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-60 JMS Default wire format insufficient to cover real world usage Raiser: Mike Edwards, owner: Simon Holdsworth Priority: 3 (deferred) Status: outline proposal in issue 10. AOB *[9:03] **anonymous morphed into Mirza Babur* *[9:05] **Ashok:* scribe: Ashok *[9:05] **Dave Booz:* just hung up by accident *[9:05] **Dave Booz:* ok, good Ashok can scribe, I'll do it next week *[9:05] **Ashok:* Roll Call: 45 percent -- not quorate *[9:07] **Ashok:* Topic: JMS/JCA Binding spec status\ *[9:07] **Ashok:* Sent to OASIS for approval *[9:08] **Ashok:* Laurent and Mike joined making meeting quorate at 63 percent *[9:08] **Ashok:* Topic: Approval of the minutes from 6th May: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37764/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202010-05-06.doc * * *[9:08] **Ashok:* Minutes above approved w/o objection *[9:09] **Ashok:* Topic: Back to JMS/JCA Binding spec status *[9:10] **Ashok:* Still have 3 editors listed who are not active *[9:10] **Ashok:* Simon: I recommend removing them as editors while keeping their names in the *[9:11] **Ashok:* acknowledgement section *[9:14] **Ashok:* Simon: I could contact them? *[9:14] **Ashok:* MikeE: Who actually edited the documents? *[9:15] **anonymous morphed into Mirza Babur* *[9:15] **Ashok:* Simon: I did and then Bryan did some work ... *[9:15] **Ashok:* Bryan: I think it is reasonable to include just the active editors *[9:16] **Ashok:* Simon: My hesitation is about PeterP who did a lot of work on the JCA spec *[9:17] **Ashok:* Eric: Perhaps contact Peter? *[9:17] **Ashok:* Simon: I will check with Peter re. JCA spec and remove the other names *[9:18] **Ashok:* Topic: Discuss proposed TC schedule Updated following discussion on call of 6th May. Consider date by which open issues are to be closed or deferred; also consider raising open vote to 2/3. 13th May: Initial test cases ready for review/discussion 20th May: CD/PR vote for WS binding spec 27th May: Test cases complete 3rd June: CD/PR vote on TA documents and test cases *[9:19] **Ashok:* Topic: WS binding CD vote Possible CD/PR vote today, otherwise deadline is 20th May *[9:19] **Ashok:* Simon: I checked the spec ... looked good! Latest revision contains all the issue resolutions *[9:20] **Ashok:* Simon: Do people need another week or can we vote today? *[9:21] **anish:* http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/37688/sca-wsbinding-1.1-spec-cd03-rev5.pdf *[9:22] **Mike Edwards:* Mike moves to accept sca-wsbinding-1.1-spec-cd03-rev5.doc as CD04 of the Web Service Binding specification *[9:23] **Ashok:* Anish seconds *[9:23] **Ashok:* RESOLVED: No objections *[9:24] **Mike Edwards:* Mike moves to send CD04 of the Web Service Binding specification for a second Public Review for a period of 15 days *[9:25] **Ashok:* Eric seconds *[9:25] **Ashok:* RESOLVED: No objections *[9:26] **Ashok:* ACTION: Simon to prepare package for Web Services Binding spec *[9:27] **Ashok:* Discussion on how OASIS templates are screwed up! *[9:28] **Ashok:* Anish: There is a JIRA project where you can file bugs against the template *[9:28] **Ashok:* ... I will research and send mail *[9:29] **anish:* here is the JIRA URL for TCADMIN: http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN *[9:30] **Ashok:* Topic: Test cases Discuss possible cd01 vote for TA documents. Discuss any existing test cases/issues with test cases. Initial JMS Binding Test Cast document: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37795/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-testcases-wd01.odt Discuss how to proceed with test case production.Test cases Discuss possible cd01 vote for TA documents. Discuss any existing test cases/issues with test cases. Initial JMS Binding Test Cast document: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37795/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-testcases-wd01.odt Discuss how to proceed with test case production. *[9:30] **Ashok:* Simon: We have WDs for Test Assertion for all 3 specs. We don't have CDs *[9:31] **Ashok:* MikeE: I'm writing tests and recommend that some Test Assertions be changed to facilitate writing tests *[9:32] **Ashok:* ... so I don't want the WDs moved to CDs yet *[9:37] **Ashok:* Discussion on construction of tests *[9:41] **Ashok:* Bryan: Points out that JCA and JMS tests are going to be different than for binding.ws *[9:46] **Ashok:* ACTION: Simon to produce initial draft of Test Cases for JMS binding spec *[9:46] **Ashok:* ACTION: MikeE to produce initial draft of Test Cases for Web Services binding spec *[9:47] **Simon Holdsworth:* With respect to editors for JMS and JCA binding specs, Piotr has requested his name/email stays on the JCA binding. I will remove his name from JMS and the other names from both specs *[9:47] **Ashok:* Simon: I spoke with PeterP and he would like his name to stay as editor *[9:47] **Ashok:* ... I will remove the other inactive editors *[9:48] **Ashok:* Topic: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-111 binding.jms uses JMS URI scheme even though it is not a valid IETF internet draft Raiser: Eric Johnson, owner: Unassigned Priority: Unassigned Status: Pending response from Oracle with respect to approval of the IETF draft *[9:50] **Ashok:* Eric: W3C SOAP/JMS WG will submit doc with old copyright language ... *[9:50] **Ashok:* ... please look at the spec *[9:51] **Ashok:* ... if you have comments on the URI scheme please send mail *[9:51] **Ashok:* ... there will be a spec available soon *[9:53] **Ashok:* ... gives Oracle a limited amount of time to change copyright assignment *[9:53] **Ashok:* ... if published with old copyright scheme it will be less useful to downstream work *[9:54] **Ashok:* ... I have sent mail to Jeff Mischkinsky *[9:55] **Ashok:* AOB? *[9:55] **Ashok:* Straggler Roll: Plamen, Anish -- All the best, Ashok
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