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Subject: Re: [sca-bindings] Version Control Commit by mike_edwards


Simon,

Comments inline in green

Yours,  Mike.

Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.
Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
IBM Hursley Park, Mail Point 146, Winchester, SO21 2JN, Great Britain.
Phone & FAX: +44-1962-818014    Mobile: +44-7802-467431  
Email:  mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com


From: Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM@IBMGB
To: sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org
Date: 14/05/2010 11:38
Subject: Re: [sca-bindings] Version Control Commit by mike_edwards





Mike,

Thanks for starting on this.  A couple of things jump out at me:

We've named the conformance statements BXXnnnnn, and the TA statements BXX-TA-nnnnn, so I would expect composites to be called Test_BXX_nnnnn.composite, e.g. Test_BWS_20001.composite rather than Test_BW_2001.composite - is there any specific reason for the compression of the "BWS" and "20001"?  The latter is not such a big deal, the former may be a problem with BJC and BJM both becoming BJ...

Simply a bug, I fixed it - oh apart from the number, which does not need to have 5 digits for the testcases (see Assembly).

Also JavaCAA being abbreviated to JCA is a bit unfortunate.

Sorry, too late for that now

In terms of the test structure, I had envisaged the following sort of general setup for JMS:

JMS Test client  ->  service send queue  ->   Test composite service (jms)  ->  Test component ->  Test composite reference (jms) ->  reference send queue ->  JMS Test Client

Where all the JMS-specific message formatting and checking goes on in the JMS Test client, and the Test component has no JMS specifics (which it can't really anyway) and is just there to forward requests, send responses, and deal with callbacks.  For each test, the details of the binding on the Test composite service and reference might vary, but the overall structure remains the same.  

From our discussion on yesterday's call, I got the impression you were considering this sort of approach for Web Services:

Test client -> arbitrary protocol -> Test composite service (any) ->  Test component 1 -> Test component 1 reference (ws) -> SOAP/HTTP -> Test component 2 service (ws) -> Test component 2

With the WS interaction happening within the Test composite.  My concern with that is that Test component 1 and Test component 2 can't do any validation at the SOAP level, which would require an approach similar to mine above:

SOAP Test client  ->  SOAP/HTTP  ->   Test composite service (ws)  ->  Test component ->  Test composite reference (ws) ->  SOAP/HTTP ->  SOAP Test Client

*** IT DEPENDS ***
It depends on WHAT you are testing.

If the test really needs to control some aspect of the low level protocol, then the approach that you outline of building a special
client for each testcase will apply.  I have not yet got to one of those for Web services - and when I get there, I think we need to
do some hard thinking about how to build the clients.  Ideally, we do as much as possible with generalized code that can simply
be controlled by configuration - it will be less than ideal to have separate client code for every testcase, although I recognise
that in some cases it may be necessary.

However, many tests DON'T require control of the low level protocol - the normative statements relate to an SCA runtime handing
some aspects of the SCDL - and for these, "pure SCA" tests are perfect.  BWS_2001 is one of these and I urge you to take a look
since it is ***MUCH*** easier to write testcases this way when you can.


Cheers, Simon

Simon Holdsworth
STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair, AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com

workgroup_mailer@lists.oasis-open.org wrote on 14/05/2010 11:16:30:

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> Author: mike_edwards
> Date: 2010-05-14 06:16:30 -0400 (Fri, 14 May 2010)
> New Revision: 1
> Web View: http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/
> sca-bindings/?rev=1&sc=1
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> Added:
>    TestCases_BJC/
>    TestCases_BJM/
>    TestCases_BWS/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_2001/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_2001/pom.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_2001/src/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_2001/src/main/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_2001/src/main/resources/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_2001/src/main/resources/META-INF/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_2001/src/main/resources/META-INF/sca-contribution.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_2001/src/main/resources/Test_BW_2001.composite
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_200x/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_200x/pom.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_200x/src/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_200x/src/main/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_200x/src/main/resources/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_200x/src/main/resources/META-INF/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_200x/src/main/resources/META-INF/sca-contribution.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_200x/src/main/resources/Test_BW_2001.composite
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_4001/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_4001/pom.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_4001/src/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_4001/src/main/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_4001/src/main/resources/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_4001/src/main/resources/META-INF/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_4001/src/main/resources/META-INF/sca-contribution.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_4001/src/main/resources/Test_BW_4001.composite
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_5001/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_5001/pom.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_5001/src/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_5001/src/main/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_5001/src/main/resources/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_5001/src/main/resources/META-INF/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_5001/src/main/resources/META-INF/sca-contribution.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_5001/src/main/resources/Test_BW_5001.composite
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/pom.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/src/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/src/main/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/src/main/resources/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/src/main/resources/META-INF/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/src/main/resources/META-INF/sca-contribution.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/src/main/resources/Service1.wsdl
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/src/main/resources/TestClient.wsdl
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/src/main/resources/TestInvocation.wsdl
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/src/main/resources/Test_BWS_xxxx.composite
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/src/main/resources/Test_Types.xsd
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General/src/main/resources/sca_variables.dtd
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/META-INF/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/pom.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/java/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/java/org/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/java/org/oasisopen/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/java/org/oasisopen/sca/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/java/org/oasisopen/sca/test/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/java/org/oasisopen/sca/
> test/ASM_0002_Client.java
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/java/org/oasisopen/sca/
> test/Service1.java
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/java/org/oasisopen/sca/
> test/Service1Superset.java
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/java/org/oasisopen/sca/
> test/TestException.java
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/java/org/oasisopen/sca/
> test/TestInvocation.java
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/java/org/oasisopen/sca/
> test/service1Impl.java
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/java/org/oasisopen/sca/
> test/service1SupersetImpl.java
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/resources/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/resources/META-INF/
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/resources/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/resources/META-INF/definitions.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/resources/META-INF/sca-
> contribution.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/resources/TestClient.wsdl
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/resources/TestClient_0002.composite
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/resources/TestInvocation.wsdl
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/resources/Test_JCA_2005.composite
>    TestCases_BWS/BWS_General_Java/src/main/resources/Test_Types.xsd
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/META-INF/
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/pom.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/java/
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/java/client_javacaa/
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/java/client_javacaa/
> JCA_0000_TestCase.java
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/java/client_javacaa/
> JCA_2001_TestCase.java
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/java/client_javacaa/
> JCA_2002_TestCase.java
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/java/client_javacaa/
> JCA_3001_TestCase.java
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/java/client_javacaa/
> JCA_4001_TestCase.java
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/resources/
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/resources/META-INF/
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/resources/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/resources/TestInvocation.wsdl
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/resources/commons-logging.properties
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/resources/log4j.properties
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/resources/oasis-sca-tests.properties
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/resources/openjpa.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/Test_Client_BWS/src/main/resources/tuscany-oasis-
> sca-tests-errors.properties
>    TestCases_BWS/build.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/pom.xml
>    TestCases_BWS/tozip.xml
> Log:
> Initial creation of Bindings TestCase repo
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