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Subject: Today's minutes
[12:00] Simon Holdsworth: Audio conference: Meeting Number: * 913929 * (press * before and after the digits) Phone numbers: Austria = Vienna 026822056419 Belgium = Brussels 022901709 China = Beijing 01052237296 Czech Republic = Prague 239014054 Denmark = Copenhagen 32714982 France = Lyon 0426840196 Marseille 0488915310 Paris 0170994364 France TollFree = 0800944795 Germany = Berlin 030726167296 Dusseldorf 021154073845 Frankfurt 069710445413 Hamburg 040809020620 Munich 089244432767 Stuttgart 0711490813212 Germany TollFree = 08006646304 India = Mumbai 02261501417 Ireland = Dublin 014367612 Italy = Milan 0230413007 Rome 06452108288 Turin 01121792100 Japan = Tokyo 0357675037 Netherlands = Amsterdam 0207965349 Poland Toll-free = 008001213648 Portugal Toll Free = 800782079 Russia = Moscow 84999222481 Russia Toll Free = 81080022074011 South Africa Toll-free = 0800982617 Spain = Barcelona 934923140 Madrid 917889793 Sweden = Stockholm 0850520404 Switzerland = Geneva 0225927186 UAE Toll-free = 8000440387 UK = Birmingham 01212604587 London 02071542988 Manchester 01612500379 UK Toll Free = 08003581667 USA = 19543344789 USA & Canada Toll Free = 18665289390
[12:01] Simon Holdsworth: Agenda:
[12:01] Simon Holdsworth: 1. Opening Introductions Roll call Scribe assignment Top of the scribe list: Plamen Pavlov SAP AG Laurent Domenech TIBCO Software Inc. Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation Bryan Aupperle IBM Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc. Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation David Booz IBM Agenda bashing 2. Approval of the minutes from 20th May: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37974/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202010-05-20.doc 3. Actions 20090211-4 [General] Write up HTTP binding use cases 20100513-2 [Simon Holdsworth] Produce initial draft of Test Cases for JMS binding spec 20100520-1 [Mike Edwards] Follow up with tc-admin to resolve the RDDL and published XSD file issue for cd04 schema files 4. New Issues No new issues 5. Status of second response to PR comment Check on status of second response to PR comment recorded in issue BINDINGS-87. Updated proposed response is in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201005/msg00086.html 6. Discuss proposed TC schedule Updated following discussion on call of 20th May. Consider date by which open issues are to be closed or deferred; also consider raising open vote to 2/3. 10th June: Test cases ready for review 17th June: Discuss testcase issues 24th June: Possible CD/PR vote on TA documents and test cases 7. Test cases Discuss any existing test cases/issues with test cases. 8. Open issue discussion http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-111 binding.jms uses JMS URI scheme even though it is not a valid IETF internet draft Raiser: Eric Johnson, owner: Unassigned Priority: Unassigned Status: Pending response from Oracle with respect to approval of the IETF draft http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-60 JMS Default wire format insufficient to cover real world usage Raiser: Mike Edwards, owner: Simon Holdsworth Priority: 3 (deferred) Status: outline proposal in issue 9. AOB
[12:04] Bryan Aupperle: Scribe: Bryan
[12:08] Bryan Aupperle: Meeting is quorate 7/13 58%
[12:08] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Approval of minutes
[12:09] Bryan Aupperle: No comments or objections
[12:09] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Minutes are approved
[12:09] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Action Items
[12:10] Bryan Aupperle: 20100513-2 - pending but Simon is close to having first test cases worksing
[12:10] Bryan Aupperle: All others are pending
[12:10] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Status of second response to PR comment
[12:11] Bryan Aupperle: Draft response here: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201005/msg00086.html
[12:16] Tom Rutt: the following sentence does not parse: "Not defining a protocol that satisfies *every* possible callback definition and interoperability are orthogonal.:
[12:19] Bryan Aupperle: Reusing reference numbers could be confusing. We can keep them local, but not repeat numbers.
[12:20] anish: how about: Defining a protocol that satisfies *every* possible callback definition and interoperability are orthogonal
[12:20] anish: Defining a protocol that satisfies *every* possible callback usecase and interoperability are orthogonal
[12:22] Eric Johnson: Interoperability is orthogonal from defining a protocol that satisfies *every* possible callback use case.
[12:28] anish: The specification has been changted to provide specific conformance statements that provide a definition of what any runtime, including non-SCA runtimes, would need to do to conform to the protocol and to interoperate on the wire. See resolution of issue 124 [ref] that makes those changes
[12:29] anish: The specification has been changed to provide specific conformance statements that provide a definition of what any runtime, including non-SCA runtimes, would need to do to conform to the protocol and to interoperate on the wire. See resolution of issue 124 [ref] that makes those changes.
[12:33] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Anish, second : Respond to commenter that created Issue 87 with response in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201005/msg00086.html with three changes: 1) renumber references continuously, 2) Eric's wording re orthogonality and 3) Anish's replacement of the last sentence.
[12:33] Bryan Aupperle: s/second/second Martin/
[12:33] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[12:34] Bryan Aupperle: Action Item (Simon): Send response to Microsoft as per prior resolution.
[12:34] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: TC schedule
[12:35] Bryan Aupperle: This is very dependent on progress of test case creation.
[12:35] Bryan Aupperle: A number of WS binding test cases are already available for inspection.
[12:36] Bryan Aupperle: Simon has some basic functionality working and so test case validation can start.
[12:36] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Binding 111
[12:37] Bryan Aupperle: Reminder that any changes to copyright issues need to happen very soon.
[12:37] Bryan Aupperle: s/Reminder/Eric: Reminder/
[12:38] Bryan Aupperle: Eric: Spec will be submitted to IETF very soon and it will be good to have reviewers.
[12:41] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: You should send an e-mail to the JCP EG list.
[12:41] Bryan Aupperle: Meeting adjourned
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