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Subject: Today's minutes


Here is the raw chat log:

Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D.
STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect

Research Triangle Park,  NC
+1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508)
Internet Address: aupperle@us.ibm.com
[12:00] Simon Holdsworth: Audio conference: 

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[12:01] Simon Holdsworth: Agenda:
[12:01] Simon Holdsworth: 1. Opening 

Introductions 
Roll call 

Scribe assignment 

Top of the scribe list: 
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG 
Laurent Domenech TIBCO Software Inc. 
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation 
Bryan Aupperle IBM 
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation 
Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc. 
Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited 
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation 
David Booz IBM 

Agenda bashing 

2. Approval of the minutes from 20th May: 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37974/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202010-05-20.doc 

3. Actions 

20090211-4 [General] Write up HTTP binding use cases 
20100513-2 [Simon Holdsworth] Produce initial draft of Test Cases for JMS binding spec 
20100520-1 [Mike Edwards] Follow up with tc-admin to resolve the RDDL and published XSD file issue for cd04 schema files 

4. New Issues 

No new issues 

5. Status of second response to PR comment 

Check on status of second response to PR comment recorded in issue BINDINGS-87. 
Updated proposed response is in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201005/msg00086.html 

6. Discuss proposed TC schedule 

Updated following discussion on call of 20th May. 
Consider date by which open issues are to be closed or deferred; also consider raising open vote to 2/3. 

10th June: Test cases ready for review 
17th June: Discuss testcase issues 
24th June: Possible CD/PR vote on TA documents and test cases 

7. Test cases 

Discuss any existing test cases/issues with test cases. 

8. Open issue discussion 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-111 
binding.jms uses JMS URI scheme even though it is not a valid IETF internet draft 
Raiser: Eric Johnson, owner: Unassigned 
Priority: Unassigned 
Status: Pending response from Oracle with respect to approval of the IETF draft 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-60 
JMS Default wire format insufficient to cover real world usage 
Raiser: Mike Edwards, owner: Simon Holdsworth 
Priority: 3 (deferred) 
Status: outline proposal in issue 

9. AOB
[12:04] Bryan Aupperle: Scribe: Bryan
[12:08] Bryan Aupperle: Meeting is quorate 7/13 58%
[12:08] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Approval of minutes
[12:09] Bryan Aupperle: No comments or objections
[12:09] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Minutes are approved
[12:09] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Action Items
[12:10] Bryan Aupperle: 20100513-2 - pending but Simon is close to having first test cases worksing
[12:10] Bryan Aupperle: All others are pending
[12:10] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Status of second response to PR comment
[12:11] Bryan Aupperle: Draft response here: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201005/msg00086.html
[12:16] Tom Rutt: the following sentence does not parse: "Not defining a protocol that satisfies *every* possible callback definition and interoperability are orthogonal.:
[12:19] Bryan Aupperle: Reusing reference numbers could be confusing.  We can keep them local, but not repeat numbers.
[12:20] anish: how about: Defining a protocol that satisfies *every* possible callback definition and interoperability are orthogonal
[12:20] anish: Defining a protocol that satisfies *every* possible callback usecase and interoperability are orthogonal
[12:22] Eric Johnson: Interoperability is orthogonal from defining a protocol that satisfies *every* possible callback use case.
[12:28] anish: The specification has been changted to provide specific conformance statements that provide a definition of what any runtime, including non-SCA runtimes, would need to do to conform to the protocol and to interoperate on the wire. See resolution of issue 124 [ref] that makes those changes
[12:29] anish: The specification has been changed to provide specific conformance statements that provide a definition of what any runtime, including non-SCA runtimes, would need to do to conform to the protocol and to interoperate on the wire. See resolution of issue 124 [ref] that makes those changes.
[12:33] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Anish, second : Respond to commenter that created Issue 87 with response in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201005/msg00086.html with three changes: 1) renumber references continuously, 2) Eric's wording re orthogonality and 3) Anish's replacement of the last sentence.
[12:33] Bryan Aupperle: s/second/second Martin/
[12:33] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[12:34] Bryan Aupperle: Action Item (Simon): Send response to Microsoft as per prior resolution.
[12:34] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: TC schedule
[12:35] Bryan Aupperle: This is very dependent on progress of test case creation.
[12:35] Bryan Aupperle: A number of WS binding test cases are already available for inspection.
[12:36] Bryan Aupperle: Simon has some basic functionality working and so test case validation can start.
[12:36] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Binding 111
[12:37] Bryan Aupperle: Reminder that any changes to copyright issues need to happen very soon.
[12:37] Bryan Aupperle: s/Reminder/Eric: Reminder/
[12:38] Bryan Aupperle: Eric: Spec will be submitted to IETF very soon and it will be good to have reviewers.
[12:41] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: You should send an e-mail to the JCP EG list.
[12:41] Bryan Aupperle: Meeting adjourned
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