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Subject: Raw minutes for 29 July



Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D.
STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect
WW Center of Excellence for Enterprise Systems & Banking Center of Excellence Application Integration Architect

Research Triangle Park,  NC
+1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508)
Internet Address: aupperle@us.ibm.com
[12:00] Simon Holdsworth: Audio conference:

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[12:00] Simon Holdsworth: Agenda
[12:00] Simon Holdsworth: 1. Opening

Introductions
Roll call

Scribe assignment

Top of the scribe list:
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation
Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation
Bryan Aupperle IBM
Laurent Domenech TIBCO Software Inc.
David Booz IBM
Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc.
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation

Agenda bashing

2. Approval of the minutes from 15 July:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/38700/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202010-07-15.doc

3. Actions

20090211-4 [General] Write up HTTP binding use cases

4. New Issues

No new issues

5. JMS Binding testcase progress

Have someone looking at these, hopefully will make progress over the next week or so

6. TC work remaining

Bindings specs have passed second public review.

PR for web services binding Test assertions/test cases
Complete JMS binding Test assertions/test cases, review and PR
Complete JCA binding Test assertions/test cases, review and PR

What else for the TC to do?

7. Open issue discussion

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-60
JMS Default wire format insufficient to cover real world usage
Raiser: Mike Edwards, owner: Simon Holdsworth
Priority: 3 (deferred)
Status: outline proposal in issue

8. AOB
[12:06] Bryan Aupperle: Scribe: Bryan Aupperle
[12:07] Bryan Aupperle: Meeting is quorate (54%)
[12:08] Bryan Aupperle: Schedule note:  Next two calls (5 Aug. and 12 Aug.) will be canceled (eliminating need for the LOA requests for that time period)
[12:09] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Approval of Minutes
[12:09] Bryan Aupperle: No comments
[12:09] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Minutes are approved
[12:09] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Actions Items
[12:09] Bryan Aupperle: No recent items
[12:10] Bryan Aupperle: HTTP binding is potential discussion for Upcoming TC work
[12:10] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: JMS Binding Test cases
[12:11] Bryan Aupperle: Ant Elder has joined the TC and will be working on these.
[12:11] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: TC work remaining
[12:12] Bryan Aupperle: Spec PRs are complete
[12:12] Bryan Aupperle: WS Test suite PR has been requested
[12:13] Bryan Aupperle: Mike:  Namespace issue has been dealt with
[12:13] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Remaining document issues have been addresses so we seem to be waiting on TC Admin.
[12:15] Bryan Aupperle: AI: Simon - Query TC Admin on status of Test Suite PR request.
[12:18] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Assembly is basically ready to be voted as a Committee Draft and Potentially a Committee Spec. (there have only been minor tweaks)
[12:18] Dave Booz: fwiw, Policy is approx. at the same point
[12:21] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Suggests we need Assembly , Policy, WS Binding and one C&I spec to go to CS at same time.
[12:21] Bryan Aupperle: Brief discussion on this.
[12:22] Bryan Aupperle: Simon: No progress at all on JCA test cases (there is a draft of the Test Assertions)
[12:23] Bryan Aupperle: Simon: We need to find an SCA implementation with a JCA binding implementation
[12:24] Bryan Aupperle: Simon: So there will be only a limited amount of work to do until the WS Test suite PR completes.
[12:25] Bryan Aupperle: Simon: We can look at HTTP binding and/or 1.2 work in Assembly.
[12:29] anish be careful about calling it REST, unless it is really REST -- else you are going to incur the wrath of the RESTafarians
[12:29] Bryan Aupperle: agreed
[12:31] Bryan Aupperle: General discussion about HTTP/REST and related data formats etc.
[12:31] anish: atom feed might fit in better with pub-sub than services (but haven't thought it through)
[12:32] anish: +1 to Eric on usecases
[12:33] anish: we have to keep in mind that we do have interfaces on services/references. Lot of times the REST, use raw data/non-XML data over HTTP usecases do not like to use interfaces
[12:34] Mike Edwards: you might like to check out Tuscany to see some examples of both REST, ATOM, JSON, etc
[12:34] Bryan Aupperle: AI: Eric - Develop use cases for HTTP binding
[12:34] Mike Edwards: Tuscany has ways of handling those cases too
[12:35] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: AOB
[12:35] Bryan Aupperle: Straggler Role
[12:35] anish: BTW, for an example see Roy Fielding's comment to REST binding for CMIS
[12:35] anish: http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2008/no-rest-in-cmis
[12:36] Bryan Aupperle: Meeting Adjourned
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