Re: Fw: [sca-bindings] 15-day Committee Specification Draft Review Requestfor Service Component Architecture JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1

[Simon Holdsworth <simon_holdsworth@uk.ibm.com>]

Robin,

I've created a diff (using Word compare/merge
documents) between cd04 and csdpr03:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/40885/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03-cd04-diff.doc

Regards, Simon

Simon Holdsworth
STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair,
AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
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From:      
 Robin Cover <robin@oasis-open.org>
To:      
 Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM@IBMGB
Cc:      
 Robin Cover <robin@oasis-open.org>,
sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org
Date:      
 26/01/2011 14:28
Subject:    
   Re: Fw: [sca-bindings]
15-day Committee Specification Draft Review Request for Service Component
Architecture JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1

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Many thanks, Simon. I updated the ticket and will
send out the
public review announcement hopefully later today.

http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-322?focusedCommentId=24376&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_24376

-rcc

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Simon Holdsworth wrote:

> Robin,
> 
> With respect to the JMS XML Binding Schema, it has been developed
by the SCA Bindings TC, is a normative part of the JMS
> Binding Specification Version 1.1, and should be considered part of
the material for public review of the JMS Binding
> specification.  However the schemas overall for the SCA TC's
have been coordinated by the Assembly TC within the
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200912
 namespace, hence the location of the file within
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/
> This relationship also applies to XML schemas from other SCA TCs.
> 
> I confirm that the version of the XML document at
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd
is the one which corresponds to CSD05 of the
> JMS binding spec.
> 
> The original request included a request for the diff to be generated
as part of the PR process, as this was combined with the
> CSD request and at that time the CSD document was not available.  Now
that the JMS specification CSDPR03 document is
> available I will create a diff between this and the cd04 version later
today.
> 
> Regards, Simon
> 
> Simon Holdsworth
> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings
TC Chair, AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
> 
> 
> 
> From:        Robin Cover <robin@oasis-open.org>
> To:        Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM@IBMGB
> Cc:        Robin Cover <robin@oasis-open.org>,
sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org
> Date:        24/01/2011 20:52
> Subject:        Re: Fw: [sca-bindings] 15-day
Committee Specification Draft Review Request for Service Component Architecture
> JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> Simon,
> 
> I hope this restatement makes it easier for you or the TC to provide
> clarification on the status of the "JMS XML Binding Schema",
but
> I am not able to determine whether it is truly a "part of"
the
> SCA JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1, since the apparent
> URI identifies the resource as part of a Work Product produced
> by the SCA Assembly TC.
> 
> Restatement of question about the status of the "JMS XML Binding
Schema"
> as part of the public review announcement for 'Service Component Architecture
> JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1' (csprd03)
> 
> 1. The question arose because in the preceding public review of this
>    JMS Binding specification,
>    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201006/msg00001.html
>    the announcement identified the JMS XML Binding Schema
as part of
>    the review:
>    "The schema files are available at:
>    Schema:
>    http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-cd04.xsd
> 
> 2. It seemed (to me) odd that a schema apparently developed by the
>    SCA-Assembly TC would be referenced as part of the review
for the
>    work product of the SCA-Bindings TC, but OK.... for now...
move on...
> 
> 3. On analogy, if the 'csprd03' public review announcement is to make
>    comparable reference to the machine-readable file for
the
>    JMS XML Binding Schema (sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd), the
proper
>    URI would be:
>    http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd
> 
> 4. That file was published on 03-Nov-2010 16:45, apparently as a product
>    of the SCA-Assembly TC
>    sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd  03-Nov-2010 16:45
> 
> 5. So we could just ignore the "JMS XML Binding Schema"
machine
>    readable file as part of the 'csprd03' public review
announcement,
>    but it seems that the latest published instance of the
"Service
>    Component Architecture Assembly Model Specification Version
1.1"
>    (at Committee Draft 06, 10 August 2010) punts to the
"SCA JMS
>    Binding Specification" as the source for the schema
file
> 
>    http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd06.html#_Toc270599635
>      (in Appendix A.9)
> 
>    "A.9 sca-binding-jms.xsd
>    Is described in the SCA JMS Binding specification [SCA-JMSBINDING]"
> 
>      which says:
> 
>    "[SCA-JMSBINDING ]
>    OASIS Committee Draft 04, "SCA JMS Binding Specification
>    Version 1.1 Version 1.1", May 2010
>    http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec.pdf
"
> 
> 6. In other words, it's difficult for me to determine whether the
>    "JMS XML Binding Schema" is properly a "part
of" the
>    Assembly Model Specification or part of the JMS Binding
Specification
> 
> 7. I'm sure the difficulty lies in my failure to appreciate how the
>    different specs align and cross-reference each other,
but in terms
>    of "part-whole" relations, I need to understand
whether the
>    "JMS XML Binding Schema" is defined canonically
and normatively
>    as "part of" one or the other specification.
 That declaration would
>    have implications as to where and when the Schema (now
>    apparently at:
>    http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd
)
>    would be part of public review.
> 
> Sorry for my confusion here.
> 
> - Robin
> 
> ===== Other data:
> 
> Snippets from the SCA JMS Binding Specification csprd03
> 
> - "The binding.jms element MUST conform to the XML schema defined
in
>    sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd [BJM30036]."
> - 3.1 Extensibility: The JMS binding allows further customization
of
>    the binding element and its subelements with vendor specific
>    attributes or elements.  This is done by providing
extension points
>    in the schema; refer to Appendix A, 'JMS XML Binding
Schema:
>    sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd' for the locations of these extension
>    points.
> 
> Robin Cover
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> 
> =============== initial message:
> 
> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201101/msg00016.html
> 
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Robin Cover wrote:
> 
> > Simon,
> >
> > I made a tour over the history of the request (18/Nov/10 05:19
AM)
> > and cannot account for why it got stalled apparently as of
> > 23/Nov/10 03:50 PM.
> >
> > If there are untidy details you think I need to understand to
> > process the public review request, please let me know, but
> > otherwise I think the fastest path is to just help with
> > clarifications and/or resources for the following, and then
> > we should be ready for the PR announcement.
> >
> > - Robin
> >
> > 1. Please confirm that the specification for this public review
> >   request has only one prose "part", referenced
in [1]
> >
> > 2. Please clarify whether the two "Schema"[s] cited
in
> >   the specification are normative, and whether we
> >   need to reference one or both by separate URI [2]
> >   in the public review announcement.
> >   My provisional opinion is that it suffice to reference/cite
> >   just this schema URI, although the prose spec seems not
to do
> >   so:
> >   http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd
> >
> > 3. Changes/diff
> >
> >   Per TC Process "Changes made to a committee draft
after a
> >   review must be clearly identified in any subsequent review..."
> >   See questions below about the diff document or list
> >   of changes that should be referenced in the announcement
> >
> > 4. does the TC have a "recommendation from the TC of external
> >   stakeholders who should be notified of the review"
?
> >   ["none" is acceptable]
> >
> >
> > ===== References:
> >
> > [1] 'csprd03' as apparent subject of 15-day review
> >
> > Service Component Architecture JMS Binding Specification Version
1.1
> > Committee Specification Draft 05 /
> > Public Review Draft 03
> > 8 November 2010
> >
> > Specification URIs:
> > This Version:
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.doc
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.pdf
> > (Authoritative)
> >
> > * note that this spec was uploaded in November
> >
> > [2] Additional "parts" or schemas that may require
reference in the
> >    public review announcement
> >
> > a) [Spec Appendix] A. JMS XML Binding Schema: sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd
> >   http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html#_Toc276112160
> >
> > - is the "JMS XML Binding Schema" intended to be normative?
> >  If so, we expect a plain text file
> > - the apparent filename for the schema is "sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd"
> > - what is the corresponding URI?
> > - possible candidate URI is:
> >  http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd
> > - hint: previous public review suggests
> >  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201006/msg00001.html,
was:
> >  http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-cd04.xsd
> >
> > snippets:
> >
> > - "The binding.jms element MUST conform to the XML schema
defined in
> >   sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd [BJM30036]."
> > - 3.1 Extensibility: The JMS binding allows further customization
of
> >   the binding element and its subelements with vendor specific
> >   attributes or elements.  This is done by providing
extension points
> >   in the schema; refer to Appendix A, 'JMS XML Binding Schema:
> >   sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd' for the locations of these extension
> >   points.
> > - from NS document at: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200912
> >  any hints?
> >
> > b) Spec section "3 JMS Binding Schema"
> >   http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html#_Toc276112132
> >
> > - does this content for "JMS Binding Schema" have,
or need,
> >  and external file and URI?
> >
> > [3] Changes/diff
> >
> > In the submission request -322 (Additional Resources), the form
> > value states
> >
> >   "[3] http://www.oasis-open.org/simplediffplease"
> >
> > Was that a request to have TC Admin produce a diff document?
> >
> > The diff we need should be a diff of B against A (right?):
> >
> > A:
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd04.doc
> > B:
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csd05.doc
> >
> > If the TC can provide this diff document, it will be appreciated.
 If we need
> > to do it, I'll make arrangements.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Robin Cover
> > Interim TC Administrator
> > OASIS, Director of Information Services
> > Editor, Cover Pages and XML Daily Newslink
> > Email: robin@oasis-open.org
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> >
> >
> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Simon Holdsworth wrote:
> >
> >> Robin.
> >>
> >> I've still not seen a response to this request regarding
the JMS binding 15
> >> day review.  It is now over 2 months since the
> >> original request for PR was made. I would appreciate it if
you could
> >> acknowledge receipt of this mail and let me know the
> >> status/outlook for this public review request.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Simon
> >>
> >> Simon Holdsworth
> >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA
Bindings TC Chair,
> >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
> >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
> >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
> >> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
> >>
> >> __________________
> >>
> >> Robin,
> >>
> >> Not sure if my previous mail got through to you... we are
still waiting for
> >> the 15 day public review to start as recorded in
> >>
> >> http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-322
> >>
> >> Thanks, Simon
> >>
> >> Simon Holdsworth
> >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA
Bindings TC Chair,
> >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
> >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
> >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
> >> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
> >>
> >> __________________
> >>
> >> I was under the impression we had resolved the dependency
for the XSD file
> >> for the JMS binding spec public review, I'd
> >> appreciate it if you could let me know current status of
this as I've not
> >> seen any announcement of the public review on the
> >> mailing list.
> >>
> >> The request is logged in
> >> http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-322
 which is in
> >> "submission review" state.
> >>
> >> Regards, Simon
> >>
> >> Simon Holdsworth
> >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA
Bindings TC Chair,
> >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
> >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
> >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
> >> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
> >> ----- Forwarded by Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM on 06/01/2011
13:28 -----
> >>
> >> From:        Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM
> >> To:        mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> >> Cc:        Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB,
Bryan Aupperle/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
> >> Date:        13/12/2010 13:39
> >> Subject:        Re: [sca-bindings] 15-day
Committee Specification Draft
> >> Review Request for Service Component Architecture JMS
> >> Binding Specification Version 1.1
> >>
> >>____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> 
> >>
> >>
> >> Mary,
> >>
> >> What is the status of this request now?  I believe Mike
Edwards has sorted
> >> out the updated XSD files for all the specs
> >> including this one.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Simon
> >>
> >> Simon Holdsworth
> >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA
Bindings TC Chair,
> >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
> >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
> >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
> >> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From:        "mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org"
<mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> >> To:        sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org
> >> Date:        18/11/2010 10:22
> >> Subject:        [sca-bindings] 15-day
Committee Specification Draft Review
> >> Request for Service Component Architecture JMS
> >> Binding Specification Version 1.1
> >>
> >>____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The following request has been submitted to the OASIS TC
Administrator on
> >> 18/11/2010:
> >> Submitter's Name
> >>   Simon Holdsworth
> >> TC Name
> >>   SCA Bindings
> >> TC Email Address
> >>   sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org
> >> Work Product Title
> >>   Service Component Architecture JMS Binding Specification
Version 1.1
> >> Committee Specification Draft ##
> >>   csd01
> >> CSD URI
> >>  
> >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/40045/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd04-rev3.doc
> >> Additional Resources
> >>   http://www.oasis-open.org/simplediffplease
> >> Approval Link
> >>  
> >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/40245/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202010-11-11.doc
> >> Previous Public Review Announcement
> >>   http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201006/msg00001.html
> >> Abstract
> >>   SCA JMS Binding Specification
> >> TC Description
> >>   The SCA Bindings technical committee defines the manner
in which SCA
> >> composites and components communicate using a variety
> >> of protocols
> >> Notes
> >>   Please generate a diff from the previous published
PR version, which was
> >> cd04.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you for your request. We will confirm receipt and schedule
the public
> >> review shortly. You can follow the progress at:
> >> http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN
> >>
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