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Subject: Re: [sca-bindings] Bindings TC Conf Call Raw Minutes
- From: Simon Holdsworth <simon_holdsworth@uk.ibm.com>
- To: sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org
- Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:14:01 +0100
Mike, thanks for minuting this meeting.
In putting these into the usual format,
I notice that the record of "no objections, motion passes, issue is
resolved" for issue BINDINGS-146 is missing from the meeting room
text. It was my recollection that this motion was unanimously passed
as the TC moved on to the next topic at that point so I'm not sure how
this got missed from the minutes.
In the past in such a situation the
TC has made a further motion to ratify the original resolution, so I will
include this on the agenda for Thursday's meeting.
Regards, Simon
Simon Holdsworth
STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair,
AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
From:
Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB
To:
"OASIS Bindings"
<sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date:
24/03/2011 17:47
Subject:
[sca-bindings]
Bindings TC Conf Call Raw Minutes
1. Opening
Introductions
Scribe assignment
Top of the scribe list:
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG
David Booz IBM
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation
Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation
Bryan Aupperle IBM
Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc.
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation
Agenda bashing
2a. Approval of the minutes from 10 March:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41418/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-10.doc
2b. Approval of the minutes from 17 March:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc
3. Actions
20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc
described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html
20110317-1 [Anish Karmakar] Go through Simon's proposal for WS binding
TA/TC and see if all the comments in the TAs have been addressed
20110317-2 [Simon Holdsworth] File a new JMS equivalent of issue 146
4. New Issues
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-149
There's no linkage between the JMS binding spec and the test cases document
5. Open Issues
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-142
Missing links to test artifacts (WS)
Owner: Editors
Status: Resolution proposed, comments made.
Latest email: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-143
Missing links to test artifacts (JMS)
Owner: Editors
Status: JMS Version of 142, http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-146
WS Binding Testcases document has no conformance section
Owner: Anish Karmarkar
Status: Resolution proposed, comments made.
Latest email: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-147
Conformance Statement missing for the JMS Binding Assertions
Owner: Simon Holdsworth
Status: Proposed resolution in email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00036.html
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-148
Conformance Statement missing for the Web Services Binding Assertions
Owner: Simon Holdsworth
Status: Proposed resolution in email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00037.html
6. AOB
Scribe: Mike Edwards
Agenda
Unchanged
Item 2 Minutes
Minutes from 10 March
Minutes are approved without change
Minutes from 17 March
Minutes are approved without change
Item 3 Action Items
Simon Holdsworth: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00043.html
20110310-03 Pending [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases
doc described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html
20110317-1 Pending [Anish Karmakar] Go through Simon's proposal for WS
binding TA/TC and see if all the comments in the TAs have been addressed
20110317-2 DONE [Simon Holdsworth] File a new JMS equivalent of issue 146
Item 4 New Issues
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-149
There's no linkage between the JMS binding spec and the test cases document
Simon describes the issue
Mike moves to open Issue 149. Seconded by Brian
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 149 is Opened
Simon describes the proposed resolution for Issue 149 - parallels the Web
service binding changes
Mike agrees that the resolution looks good
Bryan moves to resolve Issue 149 with the proposal in JIRA Seconded by
Mike.
Eric Johnson new issue posted: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-150
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 149 is resolved
b) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-150
JMS Binding Testcases document has no conformance section
Simon describes the issue, caused by lack of a conformance section for
the testcases doc
Mike moves to open Issue 150. Eric seconds.
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 150 is opened
Simon describes the proposed resolution contained in the JIRA
Similar to proposal for the Web services binding
Bryan moves to resolve Issue 150 with the proposal in JIRA. Mike
seconds.
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 150 is resolved.
Item 5 Open Issues
a) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-142
Missing links to test artifacts (WS)
Owner: Editors
Status: Resolution proposed, comments made.
Latest email: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc
Simon Holdsworth: From last meeting, proposed text for BINDINGS-142:
Simon Holdsworth: The Test Suite artifacts relating to this document can
be found here:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01.zip
Simon Holdsworth: This text to be added to the "related works"
section of the WS Bindings test cases document
Bryan - that's consistent with what's been done in other SCA specifications
Bryan moves to resolve Issue 142 with the proposal above in the minutes.
Mike seconds.
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 142 is resolved.
b) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-143
Missing links to test artifacts (JMS)
Owner: Editors
Status: JMS Version of 142, http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc
Simon Holdsworth: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00044.html
Email above contains a proposal
Mike moves to resolve Issue 143 using the proposal contained in the email
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00044.html.
Eric seconds
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 143 is resolved
c) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-146
WS Binding Testcases document has no conformance section
Owner: Anish Karmarkar
Status: Resolution proposed, comments made.
Latest email: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc
Simon: Web services version of the issue 143
- discussed last week and proposal is:
Simon Holdsworth: Replace conformance section in WS Binding Test Cases
document with:
The artifacts contained in the
sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases.zip
are considered to be authoritative and take precedence over the
artifacts described in this document.
This specification defines two targets for conformance:
a) WS Binding Testcases
b) Web Service Callback (WSCB) Testcases
An implementation that claims to conform to the requirements of the WS
Binding Testcases MUST be able to run all test cases in Section 2.1 and
Section 2.2, producing the 'Expected Output'.
An implementation that claims to conform to the WSCB Testcases MUST be
able to run all tests in Section 2.3, producing the 'Expected Output' of
each test case.
Simon Holdsworth: s/ of each test case././
Bryan: a nit but why "of each test case" on the final paragraph
Anish: I think that it should have been in both paragraphs
anish i don't have a strong preference either
Simon: I suggest removing the extra text
Amended text:
Replace conformance section in WS Binding Test Cases document with:
The artifacts contained in the
sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases.zip
are considered to be authoritative and take precedence over the
artifacts described in this document.
This specification defines two targets for conformance:
a) WS Binding Testcases
b) Web Service Callback (WSCB) Testcases
An implementation that claims to conform to the requirements of the WS
Binding Testcases MUST be able to run all test cases in Section 2.1 and
Section 2.2, producing the 'Expected Output'.
An implementation that claims to conform to the WSCB Testcases MUST be
able to run all tests in Section 2.3, producing the 'Expected Output'
.
Bryan move to resolve Issue 146 using the latest proposal in the minutes
above. Seconded by Eric.
d) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-147
Conformance Statement missing for the JMS Binding Assertions
Owner: Simon Holdsworth
Status: Proposed resolution in email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00036.html
Simon Holdsworth: Latest email : http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00045.html
Mike Edwards uploaded file: sca-jmsbinding-1.1-testcases-1.0-issue147-v4.pdf
Simon describes the changes present in the latest version of he document
linked above
Lines 125 - 128
Lines 220 - 222
(references)
Lines 208 - 219
IETF ref is the most recent version now
Minor changes in the TestCases sections
Line 227
Section 3 cross mapping deleted (moved to appendix)
Appendix A is the material from the Test Assertions doc
wording re-engineed to suit, plus removal of RFC2119 language in inappropriate
places
Appendix B - Cross mapping
Appendix C - cross mapping moved from Section 3
Mike points out that we'd have to apply the resolutions of some of the
previous Issues considered today
Simon: yes, that's right
Bryan: This proposal is just to deal with this issue
- the editors want to merge this with other resolutions
Bryan moves to resolve Issue 147 with the proposal in the document sca-jmsbinding-1.1-testcases-1.0-issue147-v4.pdf
Mike seconds
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 147 is resolved
e) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-148
Conformance Statement missing for the Web Services Binding Assertions
Owner: Simon Holdsworth
Status: Proposed resolution in email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00037.html
Simon describes the proposal contained in the email above
Simon indicates that the title of Appendix B in the proposal document sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01-issue148.odt
to read
Bryan Aupperle: Appendix A.Cross Mapping of Normative Statements to Assertions
and change Conformance statement to Normative statement in the table heading.
Simon Holdsworth: With the word "conformance" replaced by "normative"
in the title of Appedix B and the table headings
Simon Holdsworth: in appendix B
Mike moves to resolve Issue 148 with the proposal in document sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01-issue148.odt
with the title of Appendix B modified to read "Cross Mapping of Normative
Statements to Assertions" and the heading of the ttable in that section
changed to the "Normative statement"
Bryan secodns
seconds
Bryan Aupperle: s/tt/t
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 148 is resolved
AOB
COB
Yours, Mike
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