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Subject: Re: [sca-bindings] Bindings TC Conf Call Raw Minutes


Mike, thanks for minuting this meeting.

In putting these into the usual format, I notice that the record of "no objections, motion passes, issue is resolved" for issue BINDINGS-146 is missing from the meeting room text.  It was my recollection that this motion was unanimously passed as the TC moved on to the next topic at that point so I'm not sure how this got missed from the minutes.

In the past in such a situation the TC has made a further motion to ratify the original resolution, so I will include this on the agenda for Thursday's meeting.

Regards, Simon

Simon Holdsworth
STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair, AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
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From:        Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB
To:        "OASIS Bindings" <sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date:        24/03/2011 17:47
Subject:        [sca-bindings] Bindings TC Conf Call Raw Minutes





1. Opening


Introductions


Scribe assignment


Top of the scribe list:


Plamen Pavlov SAP AG

David Booz IBM

Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation

Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited

Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation

Bryan Aupperle IBM

Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc.

Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation


Agenda bashing


2a. Approval of the minutes from 10 March:


http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41418/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-10.doc

2b. Approval of the minutes from 17 March:


http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

3. Actions


20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc described in
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html
20110317-1 [Anish Karmakar] Go through Simon's proposal for WS binding TA/TC and see if all the comments in the TAs have been addressed

20110317-2 [Simon Holdsworth] File a new JMS equivalent of issue 146


4. New Issues


http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-149
There's no linkage between the JMS binding spec and the test cases document


5. Open Issues


http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-142
Missing links to test artifacts (WS)

Owner: Editors

Status: Resolution proposed, comments made.

Latest email:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-143
Missing links to test artifacts (JMS)

Owner: Editors

Status: JMS Version of 142,
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-146
WS Binding Testcases document has no conformance section

Owner: Anish Karmarkar

Status: Resolution proposed, comments made.

Latest email:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-147
Conformance Statement missing for the JMS Binding Assertions

Owner: Simon Holdsworth

Status: Proposed resolution in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00036.html

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-148
Conformance Statement missing for the Web Services Binding Assertions

Owner: Simon Holdsworth

Status: Proposed resolution in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00037.html

6. AOB

 
Scribe: Mike Edwards

Agenda

Unchanged

Item 2 Minutes

Minutes from 10 March

Minutes are approved without change

Minutes from 17 March

Minutes are approved without change

Item 3 Action Items

Simon Holdsworth:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00043.html
20110310-03 Pending [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc described in
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html
20110317-1 Pending [Anish Karmakar] Go through Simon's proposal for WS binding TA/TC and see if all the comments in the TAs have been addressed

20110317-2 DONE [Simon Holdsworth] File a new JMS equivalent of issue 146


Item 4 New Issues

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-149
There's no linkage between the JMS binding spec and the test cases document

Simon describes the issue

Mike moves to open Issue 149.  Seconded by Brian

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 149 is Opened

Simon describes the proposed resolution for Issue 149 - parallels the Web service binding changes

Mike agrees that the resolution looks good

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 149 with the proposal in JIRA Seconded by Mike.

Eric Johnson new issue posted:
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-150
Motion passes unanimously

Issue 149 is resolved

b)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-150
JMS Binding Testcases document has no conformance section

Simon describes the issue, caused by lack of a conformance section for the testcases doc

Mike moves to open Issue 150.  Eric seconds.

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 150 is opened

Simon describes the proposed resolution contained in the JIRA

Similar to proposal for the Web services binding

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 150 with the proposal in JIRA.  Mike seconds.

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 150 is resolved.

Item 5 Open Issues

a)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-142
Missing links to test artifacts (WS)

Owner: Editors

Status: Resolution proposed, comments made.

Latest email:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc
Simon Holdsworth: From last meeting, proposed text for BINDINGS-142:

Simon Holdsworth: The Test Suite artifacts relating to this document can be found here:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01.zip
Simon Holdsworth: This text to be added to the "related works" section of the WS Bindings test cases document

Bryan - that's consistent with what's been done in other SCA specifications

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 142 with the proposal above in the minutes.  Mike seconds.

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 142 is resolved.

b)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-143
Missing links to test artifacts (JMS)

Owner: Editors

Status: JMS Version of 142,
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc
Simon Holdsworth:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00044.html
Email above contains a proposal

Mike moves to resolve Issue 143 using the proposal contained in the email  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00044.html.
Eric seconds

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 143 is resolved

c)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-146
WS Binding Testcases document has no conformance section

Owner: Anish Karmarkar

Status: Resolution proposed, comments made.

Latest email:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc
Simon: Web services version of the issue 143

- discussed last week and proposal is:

Simon Holdsworth: Replace conformance section in WS Binding Test Cases document with:


The artifacts contained in the
sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases.zip
are considered to be authoritative and take precedence over the
artifacts described in this document.


This specification defines two targets for conformance:

a) WS Binding Testcases

b) Web Service Callback (WSCB) Testcases


An implementation that claims to conform to the requirements of the WS

Binding Testcases MUST be able to run all test cases in Section 2.1 and

Section 2.2, producing the 'Expected Output'.


An implementation that claims to conform to the WSCB Testcases MUST be
able to run all tests in Section 2.3, producing the 'Expected Output' of
each test case.

Simon Holdsworth: s/ of each test case././

Bryan: a nit but why "of each test case" on the final paragraph

Anish: I think that it should have been in both paragraphs

anish i don't have a strong preference either

Simon: I suggest removing the extra text

Amended text:

Replace conformance section in WS Binding Test Cases document with:


The artifacts contained in the
sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases.zip
are considered to be authoritative and take precedence over the
artifacts described in this document.


This specification defines two targets for conformance:

a) WS Binding Testcases

b) Web Service Callback (WSCB) Testcases


An implementation that claims to conform to the requirements of the WS

Binding Testcases MUST be able to run all test cases in Section 2.1 and

Section 2.2, producing the 'Expected Output'.


An implementation that claims to conform to the WSCB Testcases MUST be
able to run all tests in Section 2.3, producing the 'Expected Output'

.

Bryan move to resolve Issue 146 using the latest proposal in the minutes above.  Seconded by Eric.

d)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-147
Conformance Statement missing for the JMS Binding Assertions

Owner: Simon Holdsworth

Status: Proposed resolution in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00036.html
Simon Holdsworth: Latest email :
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00045.html
Mike Edwards uploaded file: sca-jmsbinding-1.1-testcases-1.0-issue147-v4.pdf

Simon describes the changes present in the latest version of he document linked above

Lines 125 - 128

Lines 220 - 222

(references)

Lines 208 - 219

IETF ref is the most recent version now

Minor changes in the TestCases sections

Line 227

Section 3 cross mapping deleted (moved to appendix)

Appendix A is the material from the Test Assertions doc

wording re-engineed to suit, plus removal of RFC2119 language in inappropriate places

Appendix B - Cross mapping

Appendix C - cross mapping moved from Section 3

Mike points out that we'd have to apply the resolutions of some of the previous Issues considered today

Simon: yes, that's right

Bryan: This proposal is just to deal with this issue

- the editors want to merge this with other resolutions

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 147 with the proposal in the document sca-jmsbinding-1.1-testcases-1.0-issue147-v4.pdf

Mike seconds

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 147 is resolved

e)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-148
Conformance Statement missing for the Web Services Binding Assertions

Owner: Simon Holdsworth

Status: Proposed resolution in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00037.html

Simon describes the proposal contained in the email above

Simon indicates that the title of Appendix B in the proposal document sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01-issue148.odt to read

Bryan Aupperle: Appendix A.Cross Mapping of Normative Statements to Assertions and change Conformance statement to Normative statement in the table heading.

Simon Holdsworth: With the word "conformance" replaced by "normative" in the title of Appedix B and the table headings

Simon Holdsworth: in appendix B

Mike moves to resolve Issue 148 with the proposal in document sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01-issue148.odt with the title of Appendix B modified to read "Cross Mapping of Normative Statements to Assertions" and the heading of the ttable in that section changed to the "Normative statement"

Bryan secodns

seconds

Bryan Aupperle: s/tt/t

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 148 is resolved

AOB

COB


Yours, Mike

Dr Mike Edwards  Mail Point 137, Hursley Park
STSM  Winchester, Hants SO21 2JN
SCA & Services Standards  United Kingdom
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