Raw Chat from March 31 Telcon

Simon Holdsworth: Audio conference *UPDATED 10th Jan 2011*

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Simon Holdsworth: Agenda

Simon Holdsworth: 1. Opening

Introductions

Scribe assignment

Top of the scribe list:

Plamen Pavlov SAP AG
David Booz IBM
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation
Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation
Bryan Aupperle IBM
Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc.
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation

Agenda bashing

2. Approval of the minutes from 24 March:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41632/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-24.doc

3. Actions

20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html
20110317-1 [Anish Karmakar] Go through Simon's proposal for WS binding TA/TC and see if all the comments in the TAs have been addressed

4. New Issues

No new issues

5. TC Exit criteria

Discuss exit criteria for the Bindings TC for v1.1 of the specifications and potential impacts on the specifications resulting from discussions in other TCs. In particular around optional parts of the specification and MAY/SHOULD statements.

6. Open Issues

No open issues

7. AOB

Ashok (Oracle): Quorate with 66 percent of the voting members

Ashok (Oracle): scribe:  Ashok

Ashok (Oracle): Topic:  Agenda

Ashok (Oracle): No modifications

Ashok (Oracle): Topic:  2. Approval of the minutes from 24 March: 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41632/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-24.doc

Ashok (Oracle): Simon discusses glitch with the minutes

Ashok (Oracle): But corrected

Ashok (Oracle): Minutes approved w/o objection

Ashok (Oracle): Topic: Actions 

20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html 
20110317-1 [Anish Karmakar] Go through Simon's proposal for WS binding TA/TC and see if all the comments in the TAs have been addressed

Ashok (Oracle): Anish:  Sent mail re. 20110317-1

Ashok (Oracle): Anish discusses action item.  All comments can be deleted except two.

Ashok (Oracle): Only 50009 and 50010 comments need discussion

Ashok (Oracle): Anish: 50009 points to 50013

Ashok (Oracle): ... there is no test for this

Ashok (Oracle): Bryan:  We could reword the statement ...

Ashok (Oracle): Anish:  I prefer the WSDL target

Ashok (Oracle): Simon:  We need more discussion ... let's create an issue

Ashok (Oracle): Anish:  Perhaps two issues

Ashok (Oracle): ACTION Anish to open issues for the two test assertion comments

Ashok (Oracle): ACTION:  Editors to update WS-Bindings spec to remove comments

Ashok (Oracle): Simon: Action 20110310-03 is partially complete.

Ashok (Oracle): Topic:  TC Exit criteria

Discuss exit criteria for the Bindings TC for v1.1 of the specifications and potential impacts on the specifications resulting from discussions in other TCs.  In particular around optional parts of the specification and MAY/SHOULD statements.

Ashok (Oracle): Anish:  Really about *untested* optional parts

Ashok (Oracle): Bryan:  Also, inadequately implemented assertions

Eric Johnson: From the charter: "The TC shall define concrete exit criteria that include at least two independent offerings that implement and are compliant with the all normative portions of specifications and demonstrate interoperability and portability as appropriate. Note that these are minimums and that the TC is free to set more stringent criteria. "

Ashok (Oracle): Discussion about examining each MAY and SHOULD is the specs

Ashok (Oracle): Anish:  This is being discussed in the Assembly TC.  Let's wait and see where that goes.

anish: +1 to Bryan

Ashok (Oracle): Bryan:  We should examine the MAY and SHOULD statements.

Ashok (Oracle): ACTION:  Simon to examine MAY and SHOULD statements in the JMS Binding spec

Ashok (Oracle): ACTION:  Anish to examine MAY and SHOULD statements in the WS Binding spec

Ashok (Oracle): Simon:  Any other business?

Ashok (Oracle): ADJOURNED

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