Re: [sca-bindings] Bindings TC Minutes - raw text, May 12

[Simon Holdsworth <simon_holdsworth@uk.ibm.com>]

Mike, thanks for stepping in to chair last
week's meeting.  I've uploaded the minutes document and agenda for
this weeks call.

One issue I noted from the minutes is
that Martin was noted as seconding the motion to resolve issue BINDINGS-161,
but at the time was not a voting member. I have added an item to this week's
agenda to ratify that motion.

Regards. Simon

Simon Holdsworth



From:      
 Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB
To:      
 "OASIS Bindings"
<sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date:      
 13/05/2011 09:58
Subject:    
   Re: [sca-bindings]
Bindings TC Minutes - raw text, May 12

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Attendees: 

Mike Edwards 
Tom Rutt 
Anish Karmarkar 
Eric Johnson 
Ashok Malhotra 
Plamen Pavlov 
Martin Chapman 


Yours, Mike

Dr Mike Edwards		Mail Point 137, Hursley Park
STSM		Winchester, Hants SO21 2JN
SCA & Services Standards		United Kingdom
Co-Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC
IBM Software Group
Phone:	+44-1962 818014
Mobile:	+44-7802-467431 (274097)
e-mail:	mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com

From:	Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB
To:	"OASIS Bindings" <sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date:	12/05/2011 18:17
Subject:	[sca-bindings] Bindings TC Minutes - raw text, May 12

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AGENDA 

1. Opening 

Introductions 

Scribe assignment 

Top of the scribe list: 

Plamen Pavlov SAP AG 
David Booz IBM 
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation 
Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited 
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation 
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation 
Bryan Aupperle IBM 
Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc. 

Agenda bashing 

2. Approval of the minutes from 21 April: 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/42005/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-04-21.

3. Actions 

20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc
described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html
20110331-01 [Anish Karmarkar] Open issues for the two test assertion comments
(BWS-TA-50009, BWS-TA-50010) 
20110421-01 [Bryan Aupperle] Look up what the Assembly TC did in the cases
that Bryan referred to above [tests deferred to other specs] 

4. New Issues 

BINDINGS-160:  BWS50013's target is a WSDL 1.1. document, is that
appropriate? 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-160


BINDINGS-161: BWS50015's target is a WSDL 1.1. document, is that appropriate?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-161


5. Open Issues 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-152
BWS20027 is tested in the POJO tests 
Status: Proposed resolution pending AI 20110421-01 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-153
write new tests for TA-20021 TA-20022 TA-20028 TA-20032TA-20034 TA-20035
TA-40007 TA-50008 TA-50009 
Status: Proposed resolution in JIRA 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-154
Clarify optionality of MAY statements in JMS binding spec 
Status: Proposed resolution in JIRA 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-156
Clarify optionality of SHOULD statement BJM30030 
Status: Proposed resolution in JIRA 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-157
Clarify optionality of SHOULD statement BJM60009 
Status: Alternative proposed resolutions in JIRA 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-158
Clarify optionality of SHOULD statement BJM60016 
Status: Proposed resolution in JIRA 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-159
Clarify optionality of SHOULD statement BJM60001 
Status: No proposed resolution, needs discussion 

6. AOB 


Eric moves to have Mike Edwards act as pro-tem chair
Ashok seconds 
Motion approved unanimously 

Item 1 Agenda Bashing 
No changes 

Item 2 Meeting Minutes 
Minutes of 21st April 
Minutes accepted without change 

Item 3 Actions 
20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc
described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html
20110331-01 [Anish Karmarkar] Open issues for the two test assertion comments
(BWS-TA-50009, BWS-TA-50010) 
20110421-01 [Bryan Aupperle] Look up what the Assembly TC did in the cases
that Bryan referred to above [tests deferred to other specs]
Anish's item is DONE 
Bryan's item is DONE 

Item 4 New Issues 

BINDINGS-160:  BWS50013's target is a WSDL 1.1. document, is that
appropriate? 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-160
Anish describes the issue.  Derived from what we found when reviewing
the TAs for Web services. 
Anish moves to open Issue 160 
Ashok seconds 
Motion accepted unanimously 
Issue 160 is open. 
anish: Reword BWS50013 to read: 

"A WSDL 1.1 portType element associated with an SCA service or reference
MUST NOT have the 
WSCallback policy assertion attached" 

"associated with" is intended to cover both the referencing of
a concrete WSDL document from within 
an SCA XML document (by any element) and also cover the dynamic creation
and advertising of a 
WSDL by a runtime service. 

<we can even add these explanatory words if necessary>
anish: email that has the proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201105/msg00011.html
anish: The following is the list of WSDL/1.1 elements whose scope contains
the 
Policy Subjects allowed for a WSCallback policy assertion but which cannot
have WSCallback policy assertions attached: wsdlPortType [BWS50013]
Anish proposed some modifications to this proposal (email here:  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201105/msg00014.html)

anish: 1) replace BWS50013 with: The following is the list of WSDL/1.1
elements whose scope contains the 
Policy Subjects allowed for a WSCallback policy assertion but which cannot
have WSCallback policy assertions attached: wsdlPortType
anish: 2) In section 6.1 add: "A WSDL 1.1 portType element associated
with an SCA service or reference MUST NOT have the
WSCallback policy assertion attached." 
anish: 3) follow (2) with: "associated with" is intended to cover
both the referencing of a concrete WSDL document from within
an SCA XML document (by any element) and also cover the dynamic creation
and advertising of a 
WSDL by a runtime service. 

Anish moves to resolve Issue 160 with the proposal contained in the minutes
above. 
Ashok seconds 
Motion accepted unanimously 
Issue 160 is resolved 

BINDINGS-161: BWS50015's target is a WSDL 1.1. document, is that appropriate?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-161
Anish explains the issue. 
Noted that Mike Edwards expanded the scope to address BWS 50014 & BWS
50015 
Anish moves to open Issue 161 
Ashok seconds 
Motion passes unanimously 
Issue 161 is open 
Proposal from Mike:  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201105/msg00015.html
Replace the normative statements [BWS50014] and [BWS50015] with the following
text: 

"It is good practice for Policies and Assertions to be signed to prevent
tampering.  It is acceptable for 
an SCA runtime to reject a Policy that is not signed or where there is
no associated security token 
which indicates that the signer has appropriate claims for the policy."
Ashok moves to resolve Issue 161 with the proposal contained in the minutes
above. 
Martin seconds 
Motion accepted unanimously 
Issue 161 is resolved. 
Item 5 Open Issues 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-152
BWS20027 is tested in the POJO tests 
Status: Proposed resolution pending AI 20110421-01
anish: Bryan's proposal: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/41936/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-csd01-rev1%20Issue152.odt
anish: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/41938/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-csd01-rev1%20Issue152.pdf
AI outcome is here: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201105/msg00013.html
Changes are in documentation of the TA. 
Anish moves to resolve Issue 152 with the proposal contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/41938/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-csd01-rev1%20Issue152.pdf
Ashok seconds 
Motion passes unanimously 
Issue 152 is resolved 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-153
write new tests for TA-20021 TA-20022 TA-20028 TA-20032TA-20034 TA-20035
TA-40007 TA-50008 TA-50009 
Status: Proposed resolution in JIRA 
Anish describes the proposal 
MartinC : Should should be treated as a must ala rfc2119
MartinC : its a must unless you have very good reasons not to support

AOB 
Bryan Aupperle request for LOA for May 19 
- no objections, LOA granted 

COB

Yours, Mike

Dr Mike Edwards		Mail Point 137, Hursley Park
STSM		Winchester, Hants SO21 2JN
SCA & Services Standards		United Kingdom
Co-Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC
IBM Software Group
Phone:	+44-1962 818014
Mobile:	+44-7802-467431 (274097)
e-mail:	mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com

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IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598.
Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU