Re: [sca-bindings] Recent SCA interest

[Jim Marino <jim.marino@gmail.com>]

Jeff,

I have difficulty following your argument. Even if Switchyard is not conformant to SCA, that does not discount the claim that there is market interest in SCA. In fact, Switchyard is a new project and it appears they have invested heavily in the past year adopting SCA. Whether it conforms 100% to every normative statement in the Assembly, WS Binding, and Policy specifications isn't the point. Obviously the Switchyard project finds SCA useful and they have invested time and resources into supporting it.

I am not sure how IPR policy enters into this conversation. However, since it has been brought up, one of my concerns about efforts to block the SCA specifications from reaching CS status is that it results in a situation where IPR protections will not kick in for SCA runtimes, including the conformant ones that already exist.         

Jim

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Jeff Mischkinsky <jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com> wrote:

yeah, but if it doesn't CONFORM, i.e. meet ALL the conformance requirements as set out in the spec(s), then its not SCA, it's something that is maybe kind of like SCA --
  I haven't looked at this specific project to know how close it comes to conforming, just making a general comment about the confusion created when someone say they have implemented part of a spec, and somehow that means that there is now an implementation of that spec.

note: i'm just not being pedantic here. If you carefully read the IPR policy, the IPR protections ONLY kick in for implementations of the complete spec(s), as defined by the conformance clauses. An IPR holder is not required to grant licenses/non-asserts to an implementation that does not conform.

-jeff

On Jul 12, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Jim Marino wrote:

> I thought I would share this link about RedHat's SwitchYard project as more evidence that there is interest in SCA:
>
> http://architects.dzone.com/articles/switchyard-ep-5-application
>
> Jim
>

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