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Subject: [sca-bpel] raw minutes from 2008-mar-27 telcon


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anish: Agenda: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00042.html
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Najeeb Andrabi: 
SCA-BPEL Weekly meeting has been modified by Dr. Anish Karmarkar
 
Date:  Thursday, 27 March 2008
Time:  08:00am - 09:00am PT
 
Event Description:
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Meeting ID: 877770
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Web-conf: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/sca-bpel-TC
 
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Agenda:
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
 
2. Appointment of scribe
Rotating list attached below
 
3. Agenda bashing
 
4. Approval of March 20, 2008 meeting minutes http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00040.html
 
5. Action items review
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/action_items.php
 
6. New Issues
 
NONE
 
7. Status of Committee Draft publication to OASIS doc repository OASIS TC Process requirements on Specification Quality:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#specQuality
 
Update from editors regarding changes approved last week + RDDL.
 
8. Issue Discussion
 
a) Issue 14 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-14
  TITLE: Allow sca-aware processes to specify everything that can be specified in a CT side file
  SUBMITTED BY: Anish Karmarkar
Latest proposal is at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00033.html
 
b) Issue 15 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-15
TITLE: Define Conformance Targets
SUBMITTED BY: Martin Chapman
 
c) Issue 18 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-18
TITLE: Need to rewrite the SCA-BPEL specifications with RFC-2119 keywords/statements SUBMITTED BY: KHANDERAO KAND
 
d) Issue 16 http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-16
TITLE: Ambigous Service Resolution
SUBMITTED BY: Dieter Koenig
 
9. AOB
 
-----------------------------------------
Rotating scribe list:
* Moser, Mr Simon; IBM (11/15/07)
* van der Rijn, Danny; TIBCO Software Inc. (12/06/07)
* Trickovic, Mrs Ivana; SAP AG (1/27/0
* Kand, Khanderao; Oracle Corporation (9/20/07, 1/31/0
* Rowley, Mr Michael; BEA Systems, Inc. (9/27/07, 2/7/0
* Andrabi, Mr. Najeeb; TIBCO Software Inc. (10/4/07, 2/14/0
* Malhotra, Mr Ashok; Oracle Corporation (11/29/07, 2/21/0
* Chapman, Dr Martin; Oracle Corporation (9/7/07, 12/13/07, 2/28/0
* Koenig, Mr Dieter; IBM (10/25/07, 1/10/08, 3/13/0)
* Barreto, Dr. Charlton; Adobe Systems (10/11/07, 03/20/0
 
 
Minutes:
 
 
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Thursday, 27 September 2007, 08:00am to 09:00am PT
Thursday, 04 October 2007, 08:00am to 09:00am PT
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Thursday, 25 October 2007, 08:00am to 09:00am PT
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Thursday, 15 November 2007, 08:00am to 09:00am PT
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Thursday, 29 November 2007, 08:00am to 09:00am PT
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Thursday, 27 December 2007, 08:00am to 09:00am PT
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Thursday, 25 September 2008, 08:00am to 09:00am PT
 
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Meeting ID: 877770
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Web-conf: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/sca-bpel-TC
 
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Najeeb Andrabi: Anishasis want to load issues to BPEL TC site
Najeeb Andrabi: Oasis
Najeeb Andrabi: Agenda approved
Najeeb Andrabi: meeting minutes approved.
Danny van der Rijn morphed into Danny
Najeeb Andrabi: Anish: Commitee draft ready RDDL document uploaded
Najeeb Andrabi: Anish to update the SCA assembly RDDL document to add SCA BPEL artifact
Najeeb Andrabi: Issue 14 discussion
Najeeb Andrabi: Michael Rowley: Any changes made to  sca-bpel-1.1-spec-cd01+issue14.doc? Dieter to confirm.
Najeeb Andrabi: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-14
Najeeb Andrabi: Mike Edwards: Current proposal does not have spec like language.
Najeeb Andrabi: Title: Allow sca-aware processes to specify everything that can be 
specified in a CT side file
 
Target: BPEL C&I spec
 
Description: The spec allows one to specify a SCA property and multi-ref 
in a BPEL process. It should be possible to configure a SCA component 
without requiring a component Type side file. For example, this is true 
of Java. This would make the component type side file optional for 
sca-aware processes.
 
Proposal:
<none>
Mike Edwards: Wordsmithing:
Mike Edwards: "It is possible to override the default mapping of partnerLinks to services or references as described in section 2.1 by explicitly marking the partnerLink with an SCA attribute that describes the service or reference."
Najeeb Andrabi: Danny : Had suggested alternate wording on email list
anish: danny's wordings: ""if a
different componentType is desired...."
Michael Rowley: It is also possible to override the default mapping of partnerLinks to services or references as described by explicitly marking the partnerLink with an SCA attribute that describes the service or reference.  These attributes are described in section 3.3.
Najeeb Andrabi: Martin Chapman: Next version to still CD but with a revision number
Michael Rowley: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/27731/sca-bpel-1.1-spec-cd-01-rev1.doc
Najeeb Andrabi: Michael Rowley : moves to resolve issue # 14 
Ashok: So, Martin, ... CD01-rev01
Najeeb Andrabi: Martin Chapman: After committee draft is approved we cannot move back to working draft
Najeeb Andrabi: Martin Chapman: if document is marked as revx.doc then it is not approved.
Michael Rowley: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/27732/sca-bpel-1.1-spec-cd-01-rev1.doc
Najeeb Andrabi: Michael Rowley : moves to resolve issue # 14  based on change marking based on http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/27732/sca-bpel-1.1-spec-cd-01-rev1.doc
Najeeb Andrabi: Mike Edward seconds
Najeeb Andrabi: Motion is approved and issue #14 is resolved.
Najeeb Andrabi: Anish: Two issues related to conformance tests
anish: issue 15 martin's email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00000.html
anish: my comment: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00014.html
Najeeb Andrabi: Martin Chapman: Two conformance targets suggested
Najeeb Andrabi: 1) static analysis
Najeeb Andrabi: 2) Runtime tests
Najeeb Andrabi: Static analysis of BPEL and SCA documents
Najeeb Andrabi: Martin Chapman: After the spec is made RFC-2119 keywords we can come up with conformance tests.
Najeeb Andrabi: RFC-2119 keywords compliant
Michael Rowley: CORRECTION: The proper link for CD01-Ref1 that resolves issue 14 is: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/27734/sca-bpel-1.1-spec-cd-01-rev1.doc
Najeeb Andrabi: Anish: Why would we distinguish between un-modified and modified SCA BPEL processes?
Najeeb Andrabi: Martin Chapman: we need to enumerate all the artifacts for conformance tests.
Najeeb Andrabi: Conformance Tests and RFC-2119 keywords to focus of next meeting.

 



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