Formated minutes of 2008-05-01 telcon

[Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>]

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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2008-05-01

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC telcon

01 MAY 2008

Attendees

Present

Michael Rowley, (BEA Systems, Inc.)

Mike Edwards, (IBM)

Martin Chapman, (Oralce Corporation)

Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)

Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)

Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG*)

Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.)

Chair

Sanjay Patil

Scribe

Ashok Malhotra

Agenda:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00033.html

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Contents

Topics

[1]  AI review

[2]  New issues

[3]  approval of minutes

[4]  New issues

[5]  Status of JIRA

[6]  issue 14

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

New:

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Resolutions

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Minutes

<Sanjay>

Agenda -

<Sanjay>

1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Rotating list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of meeting minutes
a) Apr 24, 2008
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00032.html
b) Apr 17, 2008
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00028.html

5. Action items review
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/action_items.php
a) AI #0021
Chairs - to follow up with Mary to post the CD docs to OASIS repository
b) AI #0035 (Due date 5/
Dieter - Create a proposal for Issue 16 - Ambiguous Service Resolution
c) AI #0037
Anish - update the assembly RDDL file, file names and the references in the spec
d) AI #0038
Anish - Open an issue about mustUnderstand for SCA and SCA BPEL NS
6. New Issues
a) Title: SCA-BPEL spec can not require bpel:mustUnderstandto be true
Submitted by: Danny van der Rijn
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00031.html

7. Status of JIRA
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL
a) Assign number to new issue
b) Issue 17 Status should be Open
Accepted on 1/31/08: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200802/msg00001.html
c) Issue 18 Status should be Open
Accepted on 2/7/08: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200802/msg00003.html
d) Issue 14 Status should be Open
Reopened on 4/17/08: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00028.html
8. Artifact URI Proposal from OpenCSA Liaison Committee
Proposal contained in this email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200804/msg00021.html
9. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 14 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-14
open issue - namespace for 'requires' attribute
b) Issue 15 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-15
TITLE- Define Conformance Targets
SUBMITTED BY- Martin Chapman
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00000.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00014.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00048.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00001.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00021.html
Review of section 2.1 from CD-01-rev3 at
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00026.html
c) Issue 18 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-18
TITLE- Need to rewrite the SCA-BPEL specifications with RFC-2119
keywords/statements
SUBMITTED BY- KHANDERAO KAND
d) Issue 16 http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-16
TITLE- Ambigous Service Resolution
SUBMITTED BY- Dieter Koenig
10. AOB

Scribe: Ashok Malhotra

 

6 out of 12 voting members present -- not quorate

 

Agenda approved

 

Skipping approval of meeting minutes because meeting not quorate.

Sanjay:

I had postponed approval of minutes last week for same reason

AI review

 

a) AI #0021
Chairs - to follow up with Mary to post the CD docs to OASIS repository
b) AI #0035 (Due date 5/
Dieter - Create a proposal for Issue 16 - Ambiguous Service Resolution
c) AI #0037
Anish - update the assembly RDDL file, file names and the references in the spec

 

Keep above actions open -- still in progress

 

AI #0038 Can be closed. Possible overlap with another issue

New issues

 

NEW ISSUES: mustUnderstand

<Sanjay>

New issue submission by Anish - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00034.html

 

Anish explains issue

 

Anish explains Danny's issue re. mustUnderstand

Anish:

we cannot approve issue because we are not quorate

Sanjay:

Your proposal says we shd use the attribute from the global namespace.

Anish:

Yes

Anish:

The value must the same for both

Sanjay:

Can value be NO?

Anish:

That's Danny's issue

Anish:

I would like to hear comments on the priposal

Sanjay:

We shd not slice and dice namespaces and functionality

<Mike Edwards>

Mike Edwards has joined the call - sorry for being late
anish woo-hoo, we just got quorum

 

MR: I agree that namespaces be coarse-grained -- perhaps only a single extension

 

+ Mike Edwards

 

Now meeting is quorate

Sanjay:

Let's circle back

approval of minutes

 

Agenda item 4 -- approval of minutes from past 2 mtgs

 

No objections to approving minutes on April 17 and April 24.

New issues

 

Agenda item 6: New issues
Martin C did we make other tentative agreements last week?

 

Motion to accept issue: Anish moves, MR seconds

 

No objection to accepting issue

Martin:

we were not quorate last week. Were there other tentative decisions we can ratify today.

Anish:

Shd we accept Danny's issue. The issues are related but not overlapping.

 

Anish moves to accept, ME seconds.

 

Accepted unanimously

Status of JIRA

Sanjay:

Next item: Status of JIRA

 

MR: AFAIK I'm up to date

Sanjay:

Issue 17 says new shd be open

 

Issue 18 same situation

Sanjay:

Issue 14 shd be reopened

 

ME: You need to close and then open again

Sanjay:

It was reopened on 4/17

 

Item 8 -- proposal from openCSA Liaison on file naming etc.

Sanjay:

Can we just make a new motion

 

ME: Moves to accept reccomendation Anish seconds

 

Accepted unanimously

Sanjay:

Now you can create our packages

 

ISSUE DISCUSSION

issue 14

 

Issue 14

Sanjay:

We shd not allow other things that we don't want to allow

 

ME: We are relying on XML mechanisms. We don't need to. We can define our own rules.

 

ME: We shd state what's required of an SCA runtime.

Sanjay:

Let's restrict scope to where does attribute get defined --
SCA or BPEL namespace

Sanjay:

Can we get back to points 2 and 3 that Anish had made in his mail

Sanjay:

Since our need is to use a few constructs from the common namespace we shd say just that

Najeeb:

Argues for defining attribute in BPEL namespace

 

MR: Possible motion -- accept definition of SCA:reuires as it is defined in the current spec i.e. in the same namespace as the other attributes

 

Have the definition in the namespace that has all the BPEL extensions

 

ME: Can it use intents in other namespaces -- MR yes

 

Anish seconds

 

Motion passes unanimously

 

Any additions to roll?

 

AOB?

 

Meeting adjourned

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