08-JAN-09 Raw Chat Log

[Danny van der Rijn <dannyv@tibco.com>]

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Meeting ID: 877770
Meeting password: SCABPEL (7222735)

[8:00] Sanjay: Agenda:
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php

2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Approval of Dec 11, 2008 minutes
   Raw chat log http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200812/msg00008.html


5. New Issues
a) Issue 26 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-26
   Removal of XPath 1.0 query language constraint on implementationRef attribute
   http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200811/msg00024.html
   Submitter: Najeeb Andrabi

6. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 18 - http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-18
TITLE - Need to rewrite the SCA-BPEL specifications with RFC-2119
keywords/statements
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200811/msg00021.html


b) Issue 24 - http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-24
TITLE  BPEL C&I spec needs to define how effective CT is synthesized

c) Issue 12 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-12
TITLE: Long-Running Request-Response Operations

7. AOB

[8:02] Sanjay: Waiting for Anish to join and open the bridge

[8:02] Mike Edwards: right - just Mozart for me

[8:04] anish: Date: 2009-01-08

[8:04] anish: Chair: Sanjay Patil

[8:04] anish: Agenda: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200901/msg00000.html

[8:06] Danny van der Rijn: Agenda approved

[8:07] Danny van der Rijn: Topic:  Approve Dec 11 minutes

[8:07] Danny van der Rijn: Minutes approved with unanimous consent

[8:08] Danny van der Rijn: Topic: New Issues - Issue 26 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-26

[8:19] Danny van der Rijn: Motion to open issue (Najeeb, Danny)

[8:19] Danny van der Rijn: Motion carries by unanimous consent

[8:27] Danny van der Rijn: Discussion of whether our spec should include a URN for XPath 2.0, and if so, if that should be a separate issue

[8:31] Danny van der Rijn: Topic:  Issue Discussion - Issue 24 - http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-24 - TITLE - BPEL C&I spec needs to define how effective CT is synthesized

[8:42] Mike Edwards: Using a composite gives the user total control without the need for a complex set of rulesa

[8:44] anish: mike, this path essentially makes CT side files redundant not just in SCA BPEL but in SCA

[8:44] anish: not saying that this is good or bad

[8:44] anish: but it will certainly make things simpler

[8:46] Mike Edwards: But C++ will say that the component type ALWAYS comes from the CTT file

[8:47] Mike Edwards: which is a very different statement

[8:47] Mike Edwards: and in general, those CT files would be built using a tool

[8:47] Mike Edwards: they would not be authored directly

[8:56] Mike Edwards: I argue for no merging, ever

[8:56] Mike Edwards: for any implementation type

[8:59] Danny van der Rijn: Action:  Danny to come up with a proposal to remove side files from BPEL C&I as well as a note to the LSC to the effect that CTs are either derived or specified in a side file, but never both

[9:00] Danny van der Rijn: Meeting adjourned

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