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Subject: Minutes of 2009-04-30 TC Call
(See attached file: 2009-04-30.txt)
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Dieter König
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[16:57] anonymous morphed into anish [16:58] anish: Date: 2009-04-30 [16:58] anish: Agenda: 1. Roll Call http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php 2. Appointment of scribe Scribe list attached below 3. Agenda bashing 4. Approval of Apr 23, 2009 minutes http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00065.html 5. Administrivia Public Review Announcement http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00054.html Subscription to the PR comments list http://www.oasis-open.org/kmlm/member/list?list_name=sca-bpel-comment PR Comments list http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel-comment/ Call for disclosure http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00059.html 5. Action Items review #0062 Sanjay - Reword SBL-TA-SP01 to reflect new tighter spec language PENDING #0064 Michael Rowley - to draft a resolution to issue-38 based on the discussion DONE #0065 Dieter Koenig - Look for a new issue wrt parterlinks and test assertion 2014 6. New Issues a> issue 39 - References to WS-BPEL 2.0 Attributes myRole and partnerRole http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00055.html http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-39 7. Issue Discussion Issue 38: Is the 'MUST' in section 2.1.2 needed? http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-38 Email Discussion http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00062.html 8. Test assertion doc Latest Draft v06: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00028.html Review TAs added by Anish from SBL-TA-2017 Review TAs added by Khanderao from SBL-TA-3001 Review TAs added by Sanjay from SBL-TA-SP04 Will start at TA2017 9. Plan for testing Seeking volunteers to write test cases 10. AOB [17:04] anish: Chair: Sanjay Patil [17:05] anish: Scribe: Dieter Koenig [17:05] Mike Edwards: well done, Dieter [17:05] anish: ScribeNick: Dieter Koenig [17:05] Dieter Koenig: 3. Agenda bashing [17:05] Dieter Koenig: Agenda approved [17:05] Dieter Koenig: 4. Approval of Apr 23, 2009 minutes http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00065.html [17:05] Dieter Koenig: Minutes approved [17:06] Dieter Koenig: 5. Administrivia Public Review Announcement http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00054.html Subscription to the PR comments list http://www.oasis-open.org/kmlm/member/list?list_name=sca-bpel-comment PR Comments list http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel-comment/ Call for disclosure http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00059.html [17:08] Dieter Koenig: Several TC members have subscribed to the PR comments list [17:09] Dieter Koenig: 5. Action Items review #0062 Sanjay - Reword SBL-TA-SP01 to reflect new tighter spec language PENDING #0064 Michael Rowley - to draft a resolution to issue-38 based on the discussion DONE #0065 Dieter Koenig - Look for a new issue wrt parterlinks and test assertion 2014 [17:09] anish: Present+ Mike Edwards, (IBM) Present+ Dieter Koenig, (IBM) Present+ Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation) Present+ Khanderao Kand, (Oracle Corporation) Present+ Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation) Present+ Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation) Present+ Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG) Present+ Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.) Present+ Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.) [17:10] Dieter Koenig: AI 0062 still pending [17:10] Dieter Koenig: AI 0064 is done [17:10] Dieter Koenig: AI 0065 is done [17:11] Dieter Koenig: 6. New Issues a> issue 39 - References to WS-BPEL 2.0 Attributes myRole and partnerRole http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00055.html http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-39 [17:11] anish: Dieter explains issue 39 [17:11] anish: Dieter: in WS-BPEL the partnerLink element has myrole and partnerRole which are optional [17:12] anish: ... it is sufficient to specify only one, the other is implied [17:12] Sanjay: thanks Anish for covering for the scribe [17:12] anish: ... a PL referencing a PLT only has one role [17:12] anish: ... the spec talks about partnerRole which may not be present [17:13] anish: ... in many cases, it just says the partnerRole of the PL or the myRole of the PL [17:14] anish: ... to keep the impact at the minimum we can say that the values are either explicit or implied [17:14] anish: ... the only exception is SBPEL3011 [17:15] anish: Danny: ws-bpel does not require explicit attributes. But perhaps we are reading too much of the fact that the ws-bpel spec does not require the attributes [17:16] anish: Dieter: certainly is best practice to include it, but being picky here [17:17] anish: Sanjay: the proposal still talks about attributes [17:17] anish: Dieter: yes, need to reword the proposal [17:18] Martin C wonders how we can fix bugs in ws-bpel [17:18] anish: Danny: if we open this issue I want to ensure that we are not encouraging anyone to not specify the partnerRole in WS-BPEL [17:18] anish: ... this is a bug in WS-BPEL [17:19] Dieter Koenig: Motion to open BPEL-39 (m: Dieter, s: MikeE) [17:19] Dieter Koenig: Motion accepted without objection [17:19] anish: Resolution: Issue 39 is opened [17:19] Dieter Koenig: Dieter to resubmit a revised proposal [17:20] Dieter Koenig: 7. Issue Discussion Issue 38: Is the 'MUST' in section 2.1.2 needed? http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-38 Email Discussion http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00062.html [17:21] Dieter Koenig: Discussion postponed until MikeR is present [17:21] Dieter Koenig: 8. Test assertion doc Latest Draft v06: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00028.html Review TAs added by Anish from SBL-TA-2017 Review TAs added by Khanderao from SBL-TA-3001 Review TAs added by Sanjay from SBL-TA-SP04 Will start at TA2017 [17:27] Dieter Koenig: Anish will open a new issue in order to remove the redundant rule SBPEL2019 [17:27] Dieter Koenig: (New Action Item) [17:29] Dieter Koenig: Continuing with SBL-TA-2020 - SBL-TA-2022 [17:34] anish: Action: Anish to open a new issue in order to remove the redundant rule SBPEL2019 [17:34] Dieter Koenig: Would "Multiple partner links (defined in different scopes) share the same name." be ok? [17:37] Dieter Koenig: In SBL-TA-2020, we replace the Prerequisite statements a) and b) by the combined statement above [17:40] Dieter Koenig: In SBPEL2022, it seems that the MAY has to be replaced by a MUST [17:41] Dieter Koenig: Moreover, the rule SBPEL2022 must be applied recursively [17:42] Dieter Koenig: New Action Item: Anish will submit a new issue [17:43] anish: Action: Anish to submit a new issue regd 2022 "MAY" and recursivity [17:43] anish: Action: Editors to fix the typo "orginalName" [17:45] Dieter Koenig: Continuing with SBL-TA-3001 [17:46] Dieter Koenig: Prerequisite should be about "two or more variable declarations." [17:46] Dieter Koenig: Continuing with SBL-TA-3002 [17:48] Dieter Koenig: Remove Prerequisite a) [17:51] Dieter Koenig: s/Remove/Update [17:52] Dieter Koenig: a) a variable declaration has an sca-bpelroperty attribute [17:53] anish: Khanderao's TAs, finished TA3002. Next time start at TA3003 [17:54] Dieter Koenig: Continuing with SBL-TA-3004 [17:55] Dieter Koenig: s/SBL-TA-3004/SBL-TA-SP04 [17:55] anish: Moved to sanjay's TAs [18:00] Dieter Koenig: (running out of time) [18:01] Dieter Koenig: Need to revisit SBL-TA-SP04 next time [18:01] Dieter Koenig: No time for Agenda Topic 9. [18:01] Dieter Koenig: 10. AOB [18:02] Dieter Koenig: Meeting adjourned
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