Raw minutes from 2009-MAY-07 con call

[Danny van der Rijn <dannyv@tibco.com>]

[8:01] anish: 1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php

2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Approval of Apr 30, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00001.html

5. Action Items review
#0062 Sanjay - Reword SBL-TA-SP01 to reflect new tighter spec language
PENDING

#0066 Anish - open a new issue to make SBPEL2019 as a non-normative statement since it is redundant to SBPEL2020-2022
DONE

#0067 Anish - Submit a new issue regarding the use of 'MAY' by SBPEL 2022 and the recursivity of the statement
DONE

#0068 Editors - fix the typo "orginalName" in the section 2.3

#0069 Khanderao - SBL-TA-3001: Prerequisite should be about "two or more variable declarations

#0070 Khanderao - SBL-TA-2020: replace the Prerequisite statements a) and b) by the combined statement - "Multiple partner links (defined in different scopes) share the same name".

#0071 Khanderao - SBL-TA-2022: Include 'prerequisite of SBL-TA-2020' as additional prerequisite

#0072 Khaderao - SBL-TA-3002 Update prerequisites a) and c) on the lines of: a) a variable declaration has an sca-bpel property attribute b) a value is provided for the property via component configuration


6. New Issues

a. Issue 40 SBPEL2019 is redundant
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-40

b. Issue 41 SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-41

7. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 38: Is the 'MUST' in section 2.1.2 needed?
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-38

Email Discussion
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00062.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00064.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00070.html

b) Issue 39 References to WS-BPEL 2.0 Attributes "myRole" and "partnerRole"
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-39
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00003.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00004.html

8. Test assertion doc
Latest Draft v06: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00028.html
Review TAs added by Khanderao starting at SBL-TA-3003
Review TAs added by Sanjay starting at SBL-TA-SP04

9. Plan for testing
Seeking volunteers to write test cases

10. AOB

[8:01] anish: Date: 2009-05-07

[8:06] anish: scribe: Danny van der Rijn

[8:06] anish: scribNick: Danny van der Rijn

[8:07] Danny van der Rijn: topic:  Approval of minutes

[8:07] Danny van der Rijn: Resolution:  minute approved unanimously

[8:08] Danny van der Rijn: Topic:  AI Review

[8:09] Danny van der Rijn: 62 is pending; 66,67 done; 68 - 72 pending

[8:09] Danny van der Rijn: Topic:  New Issue, Issue 40

[8:09] Danny van der Rijn: SBPEL 2019 is redundant

[8:10] Danny van der Rijn: Motion:  open issue 40 (m: Dieter, s: Najeeb)

[8:11] Danny van der Rijn: resolution: issue 40 open

[8:12] Danny van der Rijn: Motion: To resolve issue 40 as proposed in mail/jira. (m: Dieter, Khanderao)

[8:12] Danny van der Rijn: resolution: motion carries without objection, issue 40 is resolved

[8:12] Danny van der Rijn: Topic:  New Issue, Issue 41 - SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively

[8:15] Danny van der Rijn: Motion: To open issue 41 (m: Dieter, s: Danny)

[8:15] Danny van der Rijn: Resolution:  Issue 41 is opened with unanimously

[8:18] anish: Danny's proposal -- "If any "_originalName_i" (where N is the number of partnerLinks of name 'originalName', 1 <= i <= N) is already the name of a partner link declaration in the process definition, then the smallest number of additional underscore characters MUST be added at the beginning of all originalNames, to avoid a collision."

[8:20] Danny van der Rijn: Danny:  What exactly are we trying to accomplish?

[8:21] Danny van der Rijn: Anish: originalName corresponds to name across scopes that collide.  N such collisions.  Trying to avoid possibility that _originalName_i is also a name of another partnerLink.

[8:22] Danny van der Rijn: Danny:  across what scope do we add underscores?  originalName collision, or the entire process

[8:27] Danny van der Rijn: anish:  agreement that we need to change MAY to MUST.  need more work on what we're trying to do.

[8:28] Danny van der Rijn: najeeb:  do we need to make it a MUST.  Do we need to define it in a particular way?

[8:29] Danny van der Rijn: anish:  problem I see with that is that the names are important when you configure component in composite.

[8:32] Danny van der Rijn: danny:  componentType is inferred from BPEL file each time, not generated and saved

[8:32] Danny van der Rijn: anish:  what direction do we want to take?  Do we want to fix this to ensure deterministic componentType across all runtimes, or punt it as an edge case?

[8:33] Danny van der Rijn: mikeE:  if you're going to allow it to be an edge case, what would that say to a developer?

[8:41] Danny van der Rijn: action:  Danny to further the issue discussion in email

[8:43] Danny van der Rijn: topic:  test assertions

[8:43] Danny van der Rijn: topic: SBL-TA-3003

[8:45] anish: ACTION: Khanderao change the target of 3003 to CT

[8:47] Danny van der Rijn: topic: SBL-TA-3004

[8:48] Danny van der Rijn: anish:  I don't see why this is a MAY

[8:54] Danny van der Rijn: Action: Najeeb to raise new issue about requirement of multiplicity

[8:54] Danny van der Rijn: topic: SBL-TA-3005

[8:56] Danny van der Rijn: mikeE: the target is too broad.  should be relevant to the predicate.

[8:57] anish: Action: Khanderao to refine the target for 3005

[8:58] Danny van der Rijn: topic: SBL-TA-3006

[8:59] Danny van der Rijn: topic: SBL-TA-3007

[9:01] Danny van der Rijn: mikeE: components don't have componentType - implementations do

[9:01] Danny van der Rijn: anish: exists throughout doc.

[9:02] Danny van der Rijn: anish:  "componentType of the BPEL process" - should be changed throughout

[9:03] Danny van der Rijn: action: anish to fix as above

[9:03] Danny van der Rijn: adjourned

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