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Subject: Unformatted Minutes of the 2009-06-25 TC Call




(See attached file: 2009-06-25.txt)

>>> Again, note that the next TC call is in two weeks, that is, July 9,
2009

Kind Regards

Dieter König

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[17:00] anonymous1 morphed into anish
[17:01] anish sorry for being late, i'll enable the call in about a minute
[17:01] anonymous morphed into Najeeb Andrabi
[17:01] Michael Rowley: ok
[17:02] anish enabled
[17:02] anish: Agenda -
[17:02] anish: 1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php

2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Approval of Jun 11, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00017.html

5. Action Items review

#0077 Anish - fix the target where it says: "The component type of the component that uses " with "CT of the BPEL process"
PENDING

#0081 Editors - Clean up prerequisites so that they are all inlined.
PENDING

#0089 Sanjay  Replace globally in the TA doc SBPEL2019 with SBPEL2020, SBPEL2021 and SBPEL2022
DONE

#0090 Sanjay  Delete SBL-TA-2017 assertion from the TA doc
DONE

#0091 Mike Edwards  Create test assertion(s) for the statement SBPEL3021
DONE

#0092 Sanjay  Split SBPEL-TA-SP09 into two assertions for SCA service and SCA reference respectively
DONE

6. Administrivia
Do we need to cancel the July 2nd conf-call?

7. Public Review
PR has ended. Received only four comments
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel-comment/200906/maillist.html

8. New Issues
a) Issue 45 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-45
SBPEL3022 has redundancy in it
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-45
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00013.html

b) Issue 46 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00015.html

9. Plan for testing
Seeking volunteers to write test cases

10. Review of the Test Assertions doc
Latest Draft v11 - http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/32930/SCA_BPEL_Test_Assertions_11.odt
Description of changes -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00023.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00031.html

11. Issue Discussion

a) Issue 41
SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-41
Email discussion -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00035.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00041.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00044.html

b) Issue 42
SBPEL3004 has an incorrect 'MAY'
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-42
Email discussion --
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00025.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00031.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00040.html

12. AOB

[17:03] anish: Date: 2009-05-25
[17:03] Mike Edwards: greetings
[17:05] anish: Scribe: Dieter Koenig
[17:05] anish: ScribNick: Dieter Koenig

[17:06] Dieter Koenig: 3. Agenda bashing
[17:07] Dieter Koenig: agenda accepted without objections

[17:07] Dieter Koenig: 4. Approval of Jun 11, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00017.html
[17:07] Dieter Koenig: minutes approved without objection

[17:08] Dieter Koenig: 5. Action Items review

#0077 Anish - fix the target where it says: "The component type of the component that uses " with "CT of the BPEL process"
PENDING

#0081 Editors - Clean up prerequisites so that they are all inlined.
PENDING

#0089 Sanjay  Replace globally in the TA doc SBPEL2019 with SBPEL2020, SBPEL2021 and SBPEL2022
DONE

#0090 Sanjay  Delete SBL-TA-2017 assertion from the TA doc
DONE

#0091 Mike Edwards  Create test assertion(s) for the statement SBPEL3021
DONE

#0092 Sanjay  Split SBPEL-TA-SP09 into two assertions for SCA service and SCA reference respectively
DONE

[17:08] Dieter Koenig: no change to action item status

[17:08] Dieter Koenig: 6. Administrivia
Do we need to cancel the July 2nd conf-call?
[17:09] Dieter Koenig: >>> tc call on july 2nd is cancelled <<<

[17:10] Dieter Koenig: 7. Public Review
PR has ended. Received only four comments
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel-comment/200906/maillist.html
[17:11] Dieter Koenig: proposal to file an issue for each comment
[17:13] Dieter Koenig: new action item for anish: file an issue for each comment

[17:13] Dieter Koenig: 8. New Issues
a) Issue 45 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-45
SBPEL3022 has redundancy in it
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-45
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00013.html

b) Issue 46 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00015.html

[17:14] Dieter Koenig: Issue 45: ...

[17:14] Dieter Koenig: Title: SBPEL3022 has redundancy in it

Target: BPEL C&I PRD

Description:

[SBPEL3022] The contents of the sca-bpel:requires attribute MUST be a space separated list of SCA intent QNames, exactly as specified in the SCA Policy Framework Specification for the contents of the @sca:requires attribute.

The fact that it is a space separated list of QNames is already part of the XML Schema.

The fact that the QNames are intents is already covered by the ref to the Policy framework spec.

Proposal:

Replace 3022 with --
[SBPEL3022] The contents of the sca-bpel:requires attribute MUST be exactly as specified in the SCA Policy Framework Specification for the contents of the @sca:requires attribute.

[17:17] Dieter Koenig: motion (dieter), second (mike e): open issue 45
[17:17] Dieter Koenig: motion accepted without objection - issue 45 opened
[17:21] Dieter Koenig: motion (dieter), second (najeeb): resolve issue 45 as proposed in jira
[17:21] Dieter Koenig: motion accepted without objection - issue 45 resolved as proposed in jira

[17:21] Dieter Koenig: Issue 46: ...

[17:21] Dieter Koenig: SBPEL 3006 has language left over from when the component type was not simply derived from the process. This came up during discussion of issue 42.

[SBPEL3006] The introspected component type MUST include a reference with a multiplicity of either "0..n" or "1..n" that corresponds to a variable with the sca-bpel:multiReference element.

We need to actually specify how to derive the multiplicity from the process.

[17:29] Dieter Koenig: motion (mike e), second (dieter): open issue 46
[17:29] Dieter Koenig: motion accepted without objection - issue 46 opened

[17:29] Dieter Koenig: 9. Plan for testing
Seeking volunteers to write test cases
[17:38] Dieter Koenig: anish will have a look at it

[17:38] Dieter Koenig: 10. Review of the Test Assertions doc
Latest Draft v11 - http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/32930/SCA_BPEL_Test_Assertions_11.odt
Description of changes -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00023.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00031.html
[17:40] Dieter Koenig: (related to action item #0091 Create test assertion(s) for the statement SBPEL3021)
[17:50] Dieter Koenig: (this is test assertion sbl-ta-3026)
[17:53] Dieter Koenig: new action item (mike e): raise an issue against SBPEL3021
[17:53] Dieter Koenig: in order to make the text non-normative and remove the corresponding test assertion

[17:55] Dieter Koenig: 11. Issue Discussion

[17:55] Dieter Koenig: a) Issue 41
SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-41
Email discussion -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00035.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00041.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00044.html

b) Issue 42
SBPEL3004 has an incorrect 'MAY'
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-42
Email discussion --
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00025.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00031.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00040.html
[17:58] Dieter Koenig: (out of time - to be continued in next call)

[17:58] Dieter Koenig: 12. AOB
[17:58] Dieter Koenig: none

[17:59] Dieter Koenig: >>> next call is in two weeks
[17:59] Dieter Koenig: meeting adjourned

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