Formatted minutes of 2009-10-01 telcon

[Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>]

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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2009-10-01

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

01 OCT 2009

Attendees

Present

Mike Edwards, (IBM)

Dieter Koenig, (IBM)

Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)

Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)

Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)

Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.)

Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.)

Chair

Anish Karmarkar

Scribe

Ashok Malhotra

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Testing

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

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Resolutions

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Minutes

<anish>

Agenda --

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1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. LOA announcements
Khanderao Kand (30th Sep through 14th Oct): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00029.html
Ashok Malhotra (Oct 6 through Oct 1: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00028.html
Martin Chapman (30th Sep through 14th Oct): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00027.html
5. Approval of Sep 24, 2009 minutes
6. New Issues
None
7. Testing
a) Resume Mikes presentation of the testing work in the Assembly TC
Presentation material here:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/34391/Assembly_Testcases_Description.odp
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/34390/Assembly_Testcases_Description.pdf
b) Identify testing related work areas for SCA BPEL TC enlist volunteers
8. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 46 - SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
no proposal -- need a volunteer
b) Issue 56 - No scoping rules specified to resolve variable name referred by sca-bpel:multiRefForm extension for the partner link
Proposal in Jira
c) Issue 57 - No initialization mechanism specified for the variable with sca-bpel:multiReferen
No proposal -- need a volunteer
d) Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType of a BPEL process
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58
Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00016.html
Need an inlined proposal
e) Issue 59 - How does a SCA Extended WS-BPEL Runtime deal with a non-conformant BPEL process?
Outline of a proposal in Jira
f) Issue 50 - Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50
no proposal (deferred)
9. AOB

Scribe: Ashok Malhotra

 

No changes to the agenda

Anish:

Did not send out minutes for last week. We will approve 2 sets of minutes next weeks.

Testing

<Sanjay>

For sharing the doc we could use https://sap.na.pgiconnect.com/I805361

 

a) Resume Mikes presentation of the testing work in the Assembly TC
Presentation material here:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/34391/Assembly_Testcases_Description.odp
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/34390/Assembly_Testcases_Description.pdf

MikeE:

Recap of slide 7

 

Test client has nothing to do with SCA

 

... right hand side is SCA stuff

 

... series of contribution

 

... at bottom are 3 general contributions which can be shared

 

... Slide 8

 

... example of a specific contribution

Anish:

One composite file per conformance statement

MikeE:

One TOP-LEVEL composite

<Sanjay>

can some one click on https://sap.na.pgiconnect.com/I805361

<Sanjay>

I am trying out if the doc share works for external participants
Ashok I got a JOIN screen

<Sanjay>

go little further please
Ashok I'm in!

<Sanjay>

yup

<Sanjay>

thanks Ashok

MikeE:

Describes relation between test assertions and test cases -- M to M

 

Pause for participants to get on the SAP doc sharing facility

MikeE:

If testcase has error it will have a contribution

 

... If no errors then general contributions are used

 

... situation is actually a bit more complicated than that

 

Slide 9

 

Contains all the BPEL contributions

 

... WSDL specific to BPEL also here

Anish:

Since you are covering extensions in Assembly tests are we done?

MikeE:

No, not really

 

... the BPEL TC can make a judgement abt which assertions are covered by Assembly tests

Sanjay:

This is client and the runtime?

MikeE:

No, no client side stuff. Some files offer interface to the client

 

... exemple testCase 6004

 

... slide 11

 

Now on Slide 12

 

... contains a composite

 

... config info is in a properties file which is part of the client

 

s/Now on Slide 12//

 

Slide 12 shows the composite being used

MikeE:

I can show an example BPEL implementation?

Sanjay:

Yes, please

 

... also if we could go end-to-end from an assertion

 

...how would you configure this general framework for specific testcases

<Mike Edwards>

http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/sca-assembly/TestCases/General_BPEL/src/main/resources/service1Impl.bpel

Anish:

This will need sharing ... perhaps next week

MikeE:

Please follow link above

 

MikeE explains the content of this page in the subversion repository

Dieter:

Query Lang and Expr lang require XPath 1.0. May be a problem with the URN

MikeE:

Please send mail about this

<Sanjay>

it's a feature

Dieter:

The Receive activity must be the first activity

MikeE:

It works!

Dieter:

Move the assign after the receive

<Sanjay>

time check!

<anish>

i was about to say the same, sanjay

 

Discussion about the query in the assign

Anish:

Dieter, please start a email thread

Dieter:

I will send mail with 2 issues

MikeE:

Runs with older version of the runtime

Sanjay:

We need an end-to-end discussion. Perhaps next week.

 

... Send mail about how to set up the runtime

Anish:

Straggler roll

 

COB

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