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Subject: Formatted minutes of 2009-10-15 telcon


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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2009-10-15

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

15 OCT 2009

Attendees

Present
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Dieter Koenig, (IBM)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)
Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chair
Anish Karmarkar and Sanjay Patil
Scribe
Anish Karmarkar
Agenda:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200910/msg00013.html

Contents

Topics
[1]  agenda bashing
[2]  Approval of minutes
[3]  AI review
[4]  Impact of removal of Constraining Type by SCA-Assembly
[5]  testing
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

New:
2009-10-15-1: dieter to file an issue about constraining type

Resolutions


Minutes

<Sanjay>
Agenda --
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of 2009-10-08 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200910/msg00011.html
5. Review of Action Items
AI #0109 Mike Edwards - Send instructions for accessing Assembly Test Artifacts
6. New Issues
None
7. Impact of removal of Constraining Type by SCA-Assembly
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200910/msg00010.html
Doesn't seem to impact our spec
8. Testing
a) Scan through the SCA Assembly tests to identify which of the SCA BPEL tests are already covered
Presentation material here:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/34391/Assembly_Testcases_Description.odp
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/34390/Assembly_Testcases_Description.pdf
Tuscany download:http://tuscany.apache.org/tuscany-downloads-documentations.html
Source: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/java/sca/
b) Identify testing related work areas for SCA BPEL TC enlist volunteers
9. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 46 - SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
no proposal -- need a volunteer
b) Issue 56 - No scoping rules specified to resolve variable name referred by sca-bpel:multiRefForm extension for the partner link
Proposal in Jira
c) Issue 57 - No initialization mechanism specified for the variable with sca-bpel:multiReferen
No proposal -- need a volunteer
d) Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType of a BPEL process
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58
Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00016.html
Need an inlined proposal
e) Issue 59 - How does a SCA Extended WS-BPEL Runtime deal with a non-conformant BPEL process?
Outline of a proposal in Jira
f) Issue 50 - Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50
no proposal (deferred)
10. AOB
<Sanjay>
<Sanjay>
I hear a cat
<Sanjay>
Larry gives you a cat when you come on board

Scribe: Anish Karmarkar

agenda bashing

 
agenda approved w/o

Approval of minutes

 
 
Resolution: minutes of 2009-10-08 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200910/msg00011.html approved

AI review

 
AI #0109 Mike Edwards - Send instructions for accessing Assembly Test Artifacts
 
pending

Impact of removal of Constraining Type by SCA-Assembly

 
MikeE:
assembly removed constraining type. don't think there is any impact
Dieter:
there is only one mention in the abstract on page 2
Martin C almost proves that constraining type is a design time figment of someones imagination
Action: dieter to file an issue about constraining type

testing

Sanjay:
we need to get a detailed understanding of what needs to be done
 
... Mike has already walked through lot of details in the last 3 calls
 
... we still need to do a end-to-end look at a test
 
... we also need to look at the the bpel tests in assembly and see what is the remaining delta
MikeE:
not set up to do the end-to-end for bpel right now
 
... I can take us through what tests are present for BPEL
 
... wondering whether the rest of the TC thinks this is useful
<Mike Edwards>
Let's look at the Assembly structure that relates to BPEL implementations
<Mike Edwards>
Sanjay:
one thing is to figure out how much testing work is remaining for us
<Mike Edwards>
Select the sca-assembly link
<Mike Edwards>
Select the TestCases link
 
 
ASM* contains tests that result in errors
 
The General_* contain tests that do not result in errors
<Mike Edwards>
Select General_BPEL contribution
<Mike Edwards>
Select src -> main -> resources
 
go to http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/sca-assembly/TestCases/General_BPEL/src/main/resources/#_TestCases_General_BPEL_src_main_resources_
<Sanjay>
can those who are not speaking please mute their phones?
 
this contains set of BPEL processes and composites that use the BPEL processes
 
contain bpel processes that have services, references, properties, callbacks
MikeE:
we should look at which TAs are already covered and whether existing BPEL processes can be reused for other TAs
 
... the assembly test doc describes all these tests
 
MikeE:
the test case doc describes each individual test case
<Mike Edwards>
look at ASM_5006_TestCase in that document, for example
 
Mike walks thru ASM_5009_TestCase
<Mike Edwards>
artifacts:
<Mike Edwards>
ASM_5006_TestCase.java
Test_ASM_5006.composite
TestInvocation.wsdl
TestClient_0002.composite
TestComposite1.composite
Service1.wsdl
<Mike Edwards>
so, for TestComposite1.composite in the General_BPEL directory:
<Mike Edwards>
 
BPEL test assertions: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/33296/SCA_BPEL_Test_Assertions_12.pdf
<Mike Edwards>
Look at SBL-TA-2001
<Mike Edwards>
looking at:
<Mike Edwards>
<Mike Edwards>
<component name="TestComponent1">
<implementation.composite name="test:TestComposite1"/>
<service name="InvalidName">
<interface.wsdl interface="http://test.sca.oasisopen.org/#wsdl.porttype(Service1)"/>
</service>
<property name="serviceName">service1</property>
</component>
MikeE:
there are artifacts that are present in assembly that could be used to SBL-TA-2001 (or other TAs)
<Mike Edwards>
<!-- SCA property with name=serviceName -->
<variable name="serviceName" type="xsd:string" sca-bpelroperty="yes"/>
Sanjay:
this assembly test I think tests SBL-TA-2003
Sanjay:
what can we do offline before the next call
 
... we should go through the General_BPEL directory and try to reverse map to the TA doc
MikeE:
we can do divide and conquer
 
... should be easier to go from TA doc to existing tests
Sanjay:
the other way around, everyone doesn't have to understand all the tests
 
Volunteers -- sanjay, anish
MikeE:
i can get all the structure ready for bpel
 
... also get one test case written
MikeE:
i'll do a test case for the fist TA
Sanjay:
mike will do one test case and I'll go through the rest of the test cases and try to map it for the next call
<Dieter Koenig>
"ACTION: dieter to file an issue about constraining type" is done - issue submitted - this will probably become BPEL-60
 
Meeting adjourned

[End of Minutes]
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