Minutes
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Agenda - 1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of 2009-10-15 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200910/msg00017.html5. Review of Action Items
AI #0109 Mike Edwards - Send instructions for accessing Assembly Test Artifacts
6. New Issues
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-60Removal of constrainingType from SCA-BPEL specification
Proposal in JIRA
7. Testing
End-to-end example from MikeE
Divide and conquer --
Sanjay and Anish have voluteered
Need to figure out which TAs are already covered by assembly
Need to write new test cases for uncovered TAs
Mike to create a necessary directory structure and write the 1st test case
8. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 46 - SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46no proposal -- need a volunteer
b) Issue 56 - No scoping rules specified to resolve variable name referred by sca-bpel:multiRefForm extension for the partner
link
Proposal in Jira
c) Issue 57 - No initialization mechanism specified for the variable with sca-bpel:multiReferen
No proposal -- need a volunteer
d) Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType
of a BPEL process
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58Email discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00016.htmlNeed an inlined proposal
e) Issue 59 - How does a SCA Extended WS-BPEL Runtime deal with a non-conformant BPEL process?
Outline of a proposal in Jira
f) Issue 50 - Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50no proposal (deferred)
9. AOB
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Scribe list:
* Kand, Khanderao (Last scribed: 2009-07-23): 6
* Chapman, Dr Martin (Last scribed: 8/13/09): 9
* van der Rijn, Danny (Last scribed: 9/3/9): 11
* Koenig, Mr Dieter (Last scribed: 9/17/09): 12
* Rowley, Mr Michael (Last scribed: 2009-08-06): 8
* Malhotra, Mr Ashok (Last scribed: 2009-10-01): 13
* Andrabi, Mr. Najeeb (Last scribed: 2009-10-0: 12
* Anish Karmarkar (Last scribed: 2009-10-15): 2
<Mike Edwards>
Do you have a Denmark dial-in number for this call?
anish yes, let me look it up
anish
http://www.intercall.com/oracle/access_numbers.htm
anish denmark -- +4532729222 (Copenhagen) 80889099
Agenda
anish the 2nd number is toll-free
Minutes
Resolution: Minutes of 2009-10-15 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200910/msg00017.html approved
AI
AI #0109 Mike Edwards - Send instructions for accessing Assembly Test Artifacts
New Issues
Dieter moves to open issue 60, Mike 2nds
Resolution: issue 60 is opened
Dieter goes over the proposal in jira
Anish queries the wording in the proposal.
<Dieter Koenig>
Implement an SCA Component Type. It should be possible to use WS-BPEL to implement any SCA Component Type that uses only WSDL
interfaces to define
services and references, possibly with some SCA specific extensions used in process definition.
After reconsideration Anish is happy.
Dieter moves to resolve issue 60 with proposal in Jira, 2nd Anish
Resolution: issue 60 is resolved with the proposal in JIRA
Testing
<anish>
sanjay looks like you had a late night
Sanjay:
we now have enough info to start the SCA BPEL specfic testing work
Sanjay goes over his doc attached to link above
<anish>
i have a conference running at conference.oracle.com id: 161687972
<anish>
you have to use IE unfortunately
we need namespaces for our asserstions/test case ids, its getting confusing between TCs
purpose of the doc is to identity which sca assmbly test cases can be reused for bpel c+i test case work
will hence identify the gaps that this TC needs to work on from scratch
<anish>
btw, if we miss a few tests that already cover our TA in assembly and end up writing test cases, that's not too bad. Extra/over-lapping
tests don't hurt us
Sanjay:
there are about 40 test assertions, so might be better to divide and conquor
Mike will get one or two in place to provide a structure and help others
Issues
Issue 56 - No scoping rules specified to resolve variable name referred by sca-bpel:multiRefForm extension for the partner
link
Proposal in Jira
<anish>
proposal -- Add a note in section 3.2 where sca-bpel:multiRefForm extension is declared stating:
The variable name referred by sca-bpel:multiRefForm can be resolved using the same scoping rules as BPEL uses to resolve variable
names.
Najeeb goes over his proposal
<anish>
Description:
Spec does not say that in-order to resolve variable name referred by sca-bpel:multiRefFrom extension for the partner link
it must follow the same scoping rules to resolve variable name as BPEL.
Anish:
suggests text should be normative: change can be to MUST be
<anish>
modified proposal -- The variable name referred by sca-bpel:multiRefForm MUST be resolved using the same scoping rules as
BPEL uses to resolve variable names.
<Dieter Koenig>
[WS-[WS-BPEL]]
editors to add a normative label
Everytime we add a new normative statment need to update the TA doc!
Anish moves to resolve 56 with text above and editors to assign label and figure out reference to WS-BPEL
<anish>
the text should go in section 3.2
Sanjay:
need to create a corresponding test assertion
Resolution: issue 56 is resolved by adding the following to section 3.2: "The variable name referred by sca-bpel:multiRefForm MUST be
resolved using the same scoping rules as [WS-BPEL] uses to resolve variable names." with instructions to the editors to give
a label to the normative stmt and clean it up
Action: Najeeb to create a test asserion for the new statement as result of resolving issue-56
Sanjay:
also noted that 2004.1 does not have a test assertion, as a result of a recent resolution.
Action: Najeed to create a test assertion for 2004.1
Issue 46: anish will have a look
Issue 57: probably close no action but put on next weeks agenda
Issue 58: need inlined changes, or let editors do it. Discuss next week
Action: Anish to look into issue 46
AOB
Dieter:
sent an email on contributions. Take a look at email and see if its an issue or not for SCA-BPEL.
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