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Subject: Re: [sca-bpel] Formatted minutes of 2009-10-29 telcon


Resending. This time with the list of attendees in the minutes.

-Anish
--

On 11/4/2009 9:29 PM, Anish Karmarkar wrote:
> Attached.
> Thanks to MikeE for scribing.
> 
> -Anish
> -- 
> 
Title: SCA-BPEL - 2009-10-29

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

29 OCT 2009

Attendees

Present
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)
Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chair
Anish Karmarkar
Scribe
Mike Edwards
Agenda:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200910/msg00025.html

Contents

Topics
[1]  Agenda Bashing
[2]  Minutes of Previous Meeting
[3]  Action Items
[4]  Testing
[5]  Issue 57
[6]  issue 58
[7]  Issue 59
[8]  issue 58
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

New:
2009-10-29-1: Anish to create a proposal for issue 57
2009-10-29-2: Mike - Prepare an updated version of the proposal for Issue 58
2009-10-29-3: anish to provide an exact proposal for issue 59 (general direction in JIRA)
2009-10-29-4: MikeE to rehaul section 2.1.1 in light of issue 58 proposal

Resolutions


Minutes

<anish>
Agenda --
<anish>
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of 2009-10-22 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200910/msg00022.html
5. Review of Action Items
AI #0109 Mike Edwards - Send instructions for running the Assembly Tests
AI #0110 Mike Edwards - Provide test cases for one or more SCA BPEL test assertions and thereby provide a structure for others
AI #0111 Najeeb - Create a test assertion for the new statement as result of resolving issue-56
AI #0112 Najeeb - Create a test assertion for 2004.1
AI #0113 Anish - look into issue 46
6. Testing
MikeE to write the first test case (e.g. for SBL-TA-2001) and create the necessary structure
Here is a rough break up of work for creating the test cases. More volunteers are appreciated.
Sanjay SBL-TA-1001 to SBL-TA-2018
Anish SBL-TA-3001 to SBL-TA-3026
7. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 46 - SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
no proposal -- need a volunteer
b) Issue 57 - No initialization mechanism specified for the variable with sca-bpel:multiReferen
No proposal -- need a volunteer
c) Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType of a BPEL process
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58
Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00016.html
Need an inlined proposal
d) Issue 59 - How does a SCA Extended WS-BPEL Runtime deal with a non-conformant BPEL process?
Outline of a proposal in Jira
e) Issue 50 - Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50
no proposal (deferred)
8. AOB

Scribe: Mike Edwards

 
5/8 - Quorate
 
Scribe - Mike Edwards

Agenda Bashing

 
No changes

Minutes of Previous Meeting

 
Minutes of 22nd October
 
Approved unanimously
Resolution: Minutes of 2009-10-22 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200910/msg00022.html approved

Action Items

 
AI #0109 Mike Edwards - Send instructions for running the Assembly Tests
AI #0110 Mike Edwards - Provide test cases for one or more SCA BPEL test assertions and thereby provide a structure for others
AI #0111 Najeeb - Create a test assertion for the new statement as result of resolving issue-56
AI #0112 Najeeb - Create a test assertion for 2004.1
AI #0113 Anish - look into issue 46
 
AI #0110 - is done

Testing

 
Mike: An initial test structure has been committed to the OASIS SVN system:
 
 
Mike describes the test case structure that is in there
 
- it follows the structure of the Assembly test suite quite closely
Sanjay:
can you send some instructions on how to run these test cases
 
Mike: I'll do that once I have it working properly

Issue 57

<anish>
Action: Anish to create a proposal for issue 57

issue 58

 
Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType of a BPEL process
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58
Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00016.html
Need an inlined proposal
<anish>
Mike explains the issue
 
there was an original inline proposal
 
sca-bpel-1.1-spec-cd02+skip_proposal.do
<anish>
Anish:
I think that we need a normative statement added to section 2.1.1 before [SBPEL2001] which says that if sca-bpel:ignore is set to "true" then the partnerlink does not give rise to a <service/> or a <reference/> in the componentType
Action: Mike - Prepare an updated version of the proposal for Issue 58

Issue 59

<anish>
 
Issue 59 - How does a SCA Extended WS-BPEL Runtime deal with a non-conformant BPEL process?
Outline of a proposal in Jira
 
Action: anish to provide an exact proposal for issue 59 (general direction in JIRA)
 
Issue 50 - Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50
Anish:
We're going to wait for the test cases

issue 58

 
Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType of a BPEL process
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58
 
Mike: Here is a proposal to add a new normative statement to section 2.1.1 - this would be immediately before [SBPEL2001]
 
[SBPEL2023] If a partner link element has an sca-bpel:ignore attribute with a value of "true", then the introspected component type for the WS-BPEL process MUST NOT contain a service or a reference element which relates to that partner link element, irrespective of any other aspects of that partner link.
<anish>
?
 
Mike: But we may need to make this non normative in section 3.3:
 
[SBPEL3034] A <partnerlink/> element which has sca-bpel:ignore="true" MUST NOT be introspected as either an SCA service or as an SCA reference.
 
A <partnerlink/> element which has sca-bpel:ignore="true" is not be introspected as either an SCA service or as an SCA reference.
 
...making it non-normative
 
so that the normative statement is entirely in section 2.1.1
Anish:
Going back to section 2.1.1, we really need to make the new normative statement fit in with the style of the rest of the section
 
- that section is really a nested if
 
- and the form of the new statement
 
does not match what is there at the moment
Action: MikeE to rehaul section 2.1.1 in light of issue 58 proposal

[End of Minutes]
Formatted on 2009-11-04 at 21:35:23 GMT-8


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