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Subject: Formatted minutes of 2010-02-18 telcon


Title: SCA-BPEL - 2010-02-18




18 FEB 2010


Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Dieter Koenig, (IBM)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)
Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Sanjay Patil
Anish Karmarkar


[1]  Agenda bashing
[2]  Approval of 2010-02-11 minutes
[3]  AI review
[4]  Testing
[5]  Issue 62
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

2010-02-18-1: danny and Mike to update the proposal



Agenda --
1. Roll Call
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of 2010-02-11 minutes
5. Review of Action Items
#0125 Anish Produce test assertions for SBPEL2023 + changes in TA for issue 58 resolution
6. New Issues
7. Testing
Planned schedule -
Jan 21 - Revised specification draft (DONE)
Feb 4 - Update Test Assertion Document (Done except for SBPEL2023)
Mar 4 - Test Case Creation
Mar 25 - Review and finalization of Test Cases
Apr 1 - Go for 2nd PR
Here is a rough break up of work for creating the test cases. More volunteers are appreciated.
Sanjay - SBL-TA-1001 to SBL-TA-2018
Anish - SBL-TA-3001 to SBL-TA-3026
8. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 62 More on multiplicity 0..1
Dannys proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201001/doc00000.doc
Mike's proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201002/msg00009.html
9. AOB
Scribe list:
* Kand, Khanderao (Last scribed: 2009-07-23): 6
* Rowley, Mr Michael (Last scribed: 2009-08-06): 8
* Andrabi, Mr. Najeeb (Last scribed: 2009-11-19): 13
* Chapman, Dr Martin (Last scribed: 2009-12-10): 11
* Patil, Sanjay (Last scribed: 2009-12-17): 1
* van der Rijn, Danny (Last scribed: 2010-01-07): 12
* Anish Karmarkar (Last scribed: 2010-01-14): 3
* Edwards, Mike (Last scribed: 2010-01-21): 2
* Koenig, Mr Dieter (Last scribed: 2010-01-2: 14
* Malhotra, Mr Ashok (Last scribed: 2010-02-11): 15

Scribe: Anish Karmarkar

Agenda bashing

Agenda approved

Approval of 2010-02-11 minutes

Minutes approved
Resolution: Minutes of 2010-02-11 at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201002/msg00012.html approved

AI review

125 is pending


TA is updated modulo one AI
MikeE send out instructions for running tests
Sanjay has started working on the test
Sanjay and Anish to sync up this week on testing
there is a config file which is used to say where the contributions are. That is defined in the assembly test suite doc. It is not included in the PDF that I send

Issue 62

<Mike Edwards>
Assembly test suite document:
<Mike Edwards>
Mike explains his proposal
It is a delta on Danny's proposal
Mike's changes in section 2.1.1.
removed 2119 keywords (required/optional)
Made changes so that the stmts are self-contained
we need to merge the changes made for the sca-bpel:ignore attribute
issue 58 (ignore attribute) resolution is at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201001/msg00032.html
i thought the issue was about any reference configured in the composite not just about 0..1. I.e that reference value must be made available in BPEL
for multiref it is different, as it initializes the variables
2025 needs to be extended to include 1..1 as well
From 1/28 minutes, the rough proposal we wanted to be work on was: [SBPELXXXX] For a 0..n or 1..n multiplicity reference, then the SCA-BPEL Runtime MUST configure the sca-bpel:multiRefFrom variable associated with the partnerLink associated with that reference, using a serviceReferenceList which contains 1 service-ref element for each configured target for the reference.
for multiref we need another one that parallels 2025
Mike to see if multiref is already covered wrt 2025
my changes were all in 2.1.1. There are additional changes made by danny. It is a new section 3.5 Required XPATH functions
section 3.5 is about having a function that allows the process to use a XPATH function to check a 0..1 ref
<Mike Edwards>
Anish - I found the material - it is just below [SBPEL3005] which is line 404 in my copy of the document
... pulled out formal wordings from the WS-BPEL spec
<Najeeb Andrabi>
sca-bpel:multiReference variable initialization statement is at line 410 section 3.2
anish yes, thx
<Mike Edwards>
Strangely, there is no direct corresponding statement for properties
the 1st stmt in section 3.5 should be moved to the conformance section
the 1st SBPELXXXX, do we need it. Or is the fact that this is used in a WS-BPEL doc and therefore WS-BPEL rules apply
few stmts contain 2119 stmt but not marked as such
... there is a MUST and a SHOULD that is unmarked
... the sentence "This function determines whether the partnerRole of the specified partnerLink is set. The argument names the partnerLink, and it MUST have the following properties" doesn't need the MUST
... the other stmt that is unmarked is "These properties SHOULD be enforced by static analysis."
<Dieter Koenig>
= SBPEL5002
SBPEL5002 already covered the SHOULD, so can be removed
none of the normative stmts have targets. this need to be added
looks fine to me, is perfectly testable
... it is a function and the behavior of the runtime
it is a Q of which artifact/runtime is in error
Martin C needs to squeak before the end of the call
looked at section 8 in BPEL, it is ambiguous (wrt whether we need the 1st SBPELXXXX). We could potentially just say that all the WS-BPEL rules apply
... don't think there would be any confusion about this. OK pulling out the 1st SBPELXXXX.
changes to the proposal needed from Danny and Mike
Action: danny and Mike to update the proposal
Meeting adjourned

[End of Minutes]
Formatted on 2010-02-18 at 09:22:30 GMT-8

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