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Subject: Formatted minutes of 2010-05-27


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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2010-05-27

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

27 MAY 2010

Attendees

Present
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)
Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chair
Sanjay Patil
Scribe
Anish Karmarkar
Agenda:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/event.php?event_id=25485

Contents

Topics
[1]  agenda bashing
[2]  call schedule
[3]  approval of 2010-04-29 minutes
[4]  AI review
[5]  Testing
[6]  testing status
[7]  Review and adjust the schedule
[8]  Exit criteria of two implementation types
[9]  Review of tests
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

New:

Resolutions


Minutes

<Sanjay>
Agenda - 1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of minutes
2010-04-29 minutes http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201004/msg00062.html
5. Review of Action Items
AI #0134: Sanjay - TA editors to Update the TA doc per discussion of 2010-04-29 telcon
Done
6. Testing
Here is a rough break up of work for creating the test cases. More volunteers are appreciated.
Sanjay - SBL-TA-1001 to SBL-TA-2018
Anish - SBL-TA-3001 to SBL-TA-3026
Discussion on how to run the tests:
Instruction for setting up Tuscany for test case development and testing
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201002/msg00034.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201002/msg00036.html
Latest TA docs:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37994/SCA_BPEL_Test_Assertions_18.odt http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37993/SCA_BPEL_Test_Assertions_18.pdf
a> Status of SCA BPEL Runtime used for testing
i>Support for multiReference extension: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201004/msg00018.html
ii>Reference generation - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201004/msg00019.html
iii>Support for wiredByImpl - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201004/msg00025.html
b> Review of tests for
SBL-TA-2002: Test_SBPEL_2002
SBL-TA-2003.1, SBL-TA-2004: Test_SBPEL_2003
SBL-TA-2005, SBL-TA-2006: Test_SBPEL_2004
SBL-TA-2007: Waiting on support for multiRefFrom attribute by the SCA BPEL runtime
SBL-TA-2008: Test_SBPEL_2006
SBL-TA-2009: Test_SBPEL_2007
SBL-TA-2010: Test_SBPEL_2008, Test_SBPEL_2009
SBL-TA-2011: Test_SBPEL_2011, Test_SBPEL_2012: SCA Runtime does not seem to handle this scenario
SBL-TA-2011.1: Test_SBPEL_2006
SBL-TA-2012: Test_SBPEL_2010
SBL-TA-2013: TBD (tests callback interface of a service)
SBL-TA-2014: Test_SBPEL_2014
SBL-TA-2015: TBD (tests callback interface of a reference)
SBL-TA-2019: Waiting on support for multiRefFrom attribute by the SCA BPEL runtime
SBL-TA-2020: TBD (tests the algorithm for resolving name conflict of a service)
SBL-TA-2021: TBD (tests the algorithm for resolving name conflict of a reference)
SBL-TA-2022: Needs support for sca-bpel:ignore attribute
SBL-TA-2023: Test_SBPEL_2008
SBL-TA-2024: Test_SBPEL_2006
7. Review and adjust the schedule -
Mar 18 - Revised specification draft
Mar 18 - Update Test Assertion Document
Apr 18 - Test Case Creation
Apr 29 - Review and finalization of Test Cases
May 6 - Go for 2nd PR
8. Exit criteria of two implementation types
9. AOB
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Scribe list:
* Kand, Khanderao (Last scribed: 2009-07-23): 6
* Rowley, Mr Michael (Last scribed: 2009-08-06): 8
* Patil, Sanjay (Last scribed: 2009-12-17): 1
* Malhotra, Mr Ashok (Last scribed: 2010-02-11): 15
* Andrabi, Mr. Najeeb (Last scribed: 2010-02-25): 14
* Anish Karmarkar (Last scribed: 2010-03-11): 5
* van der Rijn, Danny (Last scribed: 2010-03-1: 13
* Chapman, Dr Martin (Last scribed: 2010-04-01): 12
* Edwards, Mike (Last scribed: 2010-04-15): 3
* Koenig, Mr Dieter (Last scribed: 2010-04-29): 15
<MartinC>
no one here but us chickens

Scribe: Anish Karmarkar

 
Meeting is quorate

agenda bashing

Sanjay:
need to reset our schedule and figure out the exit criteria
Sanjay:
one change -- to discuss call schedule

call schedule

 
Sanjay out for the next 5/6 weeks
 
Currently on a biweekly schedule
 
US holiday on july 4th
 
Anish out on june 24th
Sanjay:
next calls -- june 17th, July 8th and july 22nd
 
no objections to the call schedule for the rest of may/june/july

approval of 2010-04-29 minutes

 
 
minutes approved
Resolution: Minutes of 2010-04-29 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201004/msg00062.html approved

AI review

 
AI #0134: Sanjay - TA editors to Update the TA doc per discussion of 2010-04-29 telcon
Done
Sanjay:
new TA doc updated, version 18
 
... on the agenda today
<Sanjay>

Testing

 
Here is a rough break up of work for creating the test cases. More volunteers are appreciated.
Sanjay - SBL-TA-1001 to SBL-TA-2018
Anish - SBL-TA-3001 to SBL-TA-3026
Discussion on how to run the tests:
Instruction for setting up Tuscany for test case development and testing
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201002/msg00034.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201002/msg00036.html
Latest TA docs:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37969/SCA_BPEL_Test_Assertions_18.pdf http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37968/SCA_BPEL_Test_Assertions_18.odt

testing status

 
Three issues raised against the impl
 
No response regarding this yet. MikeE currently on vacation

Review and adjust the schedule

 
Mar 18 - Revised specification draft
Mar 18 - Update Test Assertion Document
Apr 18 - Test Case Creation
Apr 29 - Review and finalization of Test Cases
May 6 - Go for 2nd PR
sanjay:
milestones still make sense, but the dates are off
 
... TA doc/spec draft are fine, but test case doc creation is off
 
... need few more test assigned to me (algorithm for name conflict, callback), perhaps one more week.
 
July 22nd for finishing all test cases
sanjay:
2 more week for review/finalization
 
... that takes us to August 5th. We can do PR on the same day
 
... this assumes that the implementation supporting all the features would happen by that time

Exit criteria of two implementation types

sanjay:
where would we get two implementations?
 
not clear where the 2nd implementation would come from

Review of tests

 
SBL-TA-2002: Test_SBPEL_2002
SBL-TA-2003.1, SBL-TA-2004: Test_SBPEL_2003
SBL-TA-2005: Test_SBPEL_2008
SBL-TA-2007: Waiting on support for multiRef by the SCA BPEL Runtime
SBL-TA-2008: Test_SBPEL_2006
SBL-TA-2009: Test_SBPEL_2007
SBL-TA-2010: Test_SBPEL_2008, Test_SBPEL_2009
SBL-TA-2012: Test_SBPEL_2010
Sanjay:
reformatted the tests and sync with what Mike had in mind
 
... the test framework has a server side framework
 
... component in the composite to provide a client-side facing service
 
... another component that actual does the specific test
 
... for every test there would be at least 2 composites and 2 BPEL processes
<Sanjay>
Sanjay:
test for SBL-TA-2011 is running into a problem. Sent an email regd this
 
... ran into problems with Tuscany
 
... this would be the 4th issue we have with the impl
Sanjay:
did some testing of callback but did not go too deep. Worthwhile to check with Tuscany to see how much support is there for callbacks
 
... SBL-TA-2022 depends on ignore attribute and this is not yet supported by Tuscany
 
... so 5 issues with Tuscany right now
 
... + 1 issue about how much callback supported is provided in Tuscany
<Sanjay>
 
sanjay walks through his tests
anish:
we have two levels of conformance and test suite should reflect that
 
Meeting adjourned

[End of Minutes]
Formatted on 2010-06-03 at 17:30:01 GMT-7


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