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Subject: [sca-j] raw call minutes 10/04/2007



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Michael Beisiegel: agenda for this call http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/event.php?event_id=16635
Michael Beisiegel: 1. Preliminaries

- Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j
- Appointment of scribe
List attached below
- Agenda bashing
- Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200710/msg00003.html

2. New Issues (most carried over from last week)

@AllowsPassByReference requires more detailed description
Proposer: Henning
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00035.html

Support for JAX-WS style async methods
Proposer: Henning
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00036.html

Concurrency model for Service Reference instances
Proposer: Henning
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00037.html

Representation of references with multiplicity > 1 on Component Context API
Proposer: Henning
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00038.html

State sharing between ServiceReference and type-safereference
Proposer: Simon
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00039.html

Semantics of getCallbackID() are underspecified
Proposer: Simon
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00040.html

Relation between conversational annotation and scope conversation
Proposer: Peter P
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00046.html

EJB remove method on EJBHome
Proposer: Michael R
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200710/msg00004.html

3. Issues with proposals (Real Work!)

ISSUE 3 - Local services expose implementation classes as their type
Proposal from: Michael R
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-3

4. Choice of issues to tackle next week

Pick issues to work on at next week's call (tentatively) in order to give proposers time to prepare their proposals.

5. Adjourn

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Michael Beisiegel:  
anish: scribe: Michael Beisiegel
Michael Beisiegel: thx
Michael Beisiegel: topic: - Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200710/msg00003.html
Michael Beisiegel: Mike R moves to accept minutes from last week
Michael Beisiegel: Mike E: seconds
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Michael Beisiegel: Simon N ammends to accept minutes updated with role
Michael Beisiegel: Dave B seconds
anish oasis kavi mailing list archive does not set the filename/content-type correctly
Sanjay: chairs, could you please add me to the roll
Michael Rowley: The roll from last week is:
Michael Rowley: Michael Rowley  BEA Systems, Inc.  
Jean-Sebastien Delfino IBM
Mike Edwards IBM
Simon Nash IBM
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation
Michael Keith Oracle Corporation
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation
Jeff Mischkinsky Oracle Corporation
Ron Barack SAP AG*
Henning Blohm SAP AG*
Sanjay Patil SAP AG*
Peter Peshev SAP AG*
Roberto Chinnici Sun Microsystems
Peter Walker Sun Microsystems
Sriram Narasimhan TIBCO Software Inc.
Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software Inc.

Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unonimous consent
anish every attachement is application/octet-stream
anish very frustrating
Michael Beisiegel: topic: new issues
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Michael Beisiegel: @AllowsPassByReference requires more detailed description
Proposer: Henning
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00035.html
Mike Keith joined
Michael Beisiegel: Henning moves to accep that issue
Michael Beisiegel: Anish seonds
Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent
anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00036.html
Michael Beisiegel: next issue
Michael Beisiegel: Support for JAX-WS style async methods
Proposer: Henning
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00036.html
Michael Beisiegel: Henning moves to accept that issue
Michael Beisiegel: Dave B seconds
Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent
Michael Beisiegel: next issue
Michael Beisiegel: Concurrency model for Service Reference instances
Proposer: Henning
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00037.html
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Michael Beisiegel: Henning moves to accept this issue
Michael Beisiegel: Sirarm N seconds
Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent
Michael Beisiegel: next issue
Michael Beisiegel: Representation of references with multiplicity > 1 on Component Context API
Proposer: Henning
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00038.html
Michael Beisiegel: Henning moves to accept this issue
Michael Beisiegel: Anish seconds
Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent
Michael Beisiegel: next issue
Michael Beisiegel: State sharing between ServiceReference and type-safereference
Proposer: Simon
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00039.html
Michael Beisiegel: Simon moves to accept this issue
Michael Beisiegel: Henning seconds
Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent
Michael Beisiegel: next issue
Michael Beisiegel: Semantics of getCallbackID() are underspecified
Proposer: Simon
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00040.html
Michael Beisiegel: Mike R question: diff binding different runtimes different semantics how id is created
Michael Beisiegel: Simon N spec need to be more prescriptive
Michael Beisiegel: Simon moves to accept this issue
Michael Beisiegel: Henning seconds
Mike Edwards: hmm
Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent
Michael Beisiegel: next issue
Michael Beisiegel: Relation between conversational annotation and scope conversation
Proposer: Peter P
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00046.html
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Michael Beisiegel: Simon N would be good to have list of things that are not clear
Michael Beisiegel: Mike E need to have description of combinations
anish wasn't this an issue in osoa?
anish didn't we already resolve this?
Michael Beisiegel: Action for Peter P follow up once this is open to put more detail into this
Michael Beisiegel: Henning, should this issue also discuss creation of con ids
Michael Beisiegel: Peter P no
Michael Beisiegel: Peter Peshev moves to accept this issue
Michael Beisiegel: Mike E seconds
Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent
Michael Beisiegel: next issue
Michael Beisiegel: EJB remove method on EJBHome
Proposer: Michael R
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200710/msg00004.html
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Michael Beisiegel: Mike R moves to accept this issue
Michael Beisiegel: Dave B seconds
Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent
Michael Beisiegel: Topic: 3. Issues with proposals (Real Work!)
Michael Beisiegel: Mike R proposes to modify agenda to go to the ejb home issue 1st
Michael Beisiegel: Mike R moves to accept proposal for issue 5
Michael Beisiegel: Mike Keith seconds
Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent
Michael Beisiegel: on to issue #3
Michael Beisiegel: ISSUE 3 - Local services expose implementation classes as their type
Proposal from: Michael R
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-3
Michael Beisiegel: Action to editors: Dave Booz volunteers to do the editing work for issue #5
Michael Rowley: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/documents.php
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Michael Beisiegel: we skip 3 and do it next week
Michael Beisiegel: Topic: 4. Choice of issues to tackle next week
Michael Beisiegel: Mike R who want to volunteer to present proposal for their issues
Michael Beisiegel: Henning wants to do #8
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Michael Beisiegel: Mike R want to do #3
Michael Beisiegel: Henning will also do #9
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Michael Beisiegel: meeting adjourned

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