RE: [sca-j] ISSUE 4 - Dependency reinjection

[Mike Edwards <mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com>]

Simon,

A dose of <mje>Edwards
commentary</mje>

Yours,  Mike.

Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.
Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
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Simon Nash/UK/IBM@IBMGB

30/01/2008 15:29

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Now that we have agreed to permit reinjection into
conversational-scoped 
instances, this (re)raises the question of callback reinjection.

We had decided not to permit this at all, based on the earlier decisions
to limit reinjection to composite-scoped instances only, and to prohibit
callback injection into composite-scoped instances.

The reversal of the first of these decisions means that we need to 
consider the case of a conversational-scoped instance with a bidirectional
interface that is invoked by two different callers using the same 
application-generated conversationID.  Section 6.6.1 gives some hints
that 
it is possible, without saying so explicitly.

We could address this in (at least) four ways:
1. Prohibit callback injection for conversation-scoped components, as we
have done for composite-scoped components.  This seems bad because
it 
penalises a common case (calls from one client per conversational 
instance) in favour of a rare case (calls from multiple clients per 
conversational instance).
2. Say that in this case, callback reinjection MUST be done.  This
goes 
against the "big MAY" for other types of reinjection.  It
can also lead to 
non-deterministic behavior in multithreaded scenarios.
3. Say that in this case, callback reinjection MUST NOT be done.  This
puts the burden on developers to know that they should avoid using 
injected callbacks if there is a possibilty that the component will be
invoked by multiple clients within the same conversation.
4. Say that in this case, callback reinjection MAY be done.  This
has a 
similar effect to option 3. 

To start the ball rolling, I suggest that we adopt option 3.  What
do 
others think?
<mje>The simple case
for a conversation scoped component with a callback is that 
it has exactly one client.
 This will be the 99% case, in my opinion.  This is dealt with
by a simple injection of
the callback at the start of the conversation.

Any case which might imply
the need for reinjection is going to be a rare case - ie
where the client in the
same conversation changes during the conversation.
I'm in favour of not doing
anything to support this.  No reinjection.  
If the component wants to do anything about it, it can use the (more complex)
context calls to discover
if the client has changed and then act accordingly.

This corresponds to your
option 3.</mje>

<mje>I note that
the default behaviour of most conversation scoped components
will thus be to ignore
a change of client during the progress of a single
conversation.  The
implication of this is that it will not be possible to change
the client in reality,
since the service will always call back to the original client.</mje>

    Simon

Simon C. Nash, IBM Distinguished Engineer
Member of the IBM Academy of Technology
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Simon Nash/UK/IBM@IBMGB 
15/01/2008 22:32

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Two approved motions from last week's call were not incorporated into the
v3 version of the table.  These were:

1. ComponentContext.getServiceReference() should be always in sync with
the current configuration of the domain

2. no objections to dropping the column, as long as long as the text typed

by Michael is present

I have made these changes in the v4 version (attached).



    Simon

Simon C. Nash, IBM Distinguished Engineer
Member of the IBM Academy of Technology
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"Michael Rowley" <mrowley@bea.com> 
10/01/2008 21:19

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Here is an updated table, based on the last TC meeting.
 
Michael
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