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[15:58] Mark Combellack:
Country Toll Numbers Freephone/Toll Free Number 10800-120-1433 *Access to your conference
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local telecom provider Country-specific dialing
restrictions: https://www.mymeetings.com/audioconferencing/pdf/GlobalAccess.doc PARTICIPANT PASSCODE:
4092525 Press *6 to mute or un-mute
individual line. Chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/sca-j-TC [15:59] Mark Combellack: -
Roll Call http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j - Appointment of scribe.
List attached below - Agenda bashing - Approval of minutes from
previous meeting(s) 1. Election of co-chair After Simon's notice of
resignation, we agreed in the last meeting to elect a replacement co-chair http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00105.html 2. Dial in access numbers
for the Conference Calls Since Simon is leaving IBM,
his access numbers that are used for the SCA-J will no longer be available.
We need to organise an alternative. 3. Leaves of Absence: Mark Combellack will be on
LOA from September 22 to October 6 inclusive. 4. Review action items: 2008-07-15-2: 2008-07-15-4: Chairs to
produce schedule for spec completion with help from Anish 2008-07-15-9: MikeE to
produce worked example of his proposal for JAVA-1, and to show the invocation
model 2008-07-24-2: Simon to
revise proposal for issue 49 based on today's discussion 2008-08-11-1: Mark to send
email requesting nominations for co-chair 2008-08-11-2: Editors to
check with other specifications how the use of 'a' and 'an' when referring to
annotations. 5. Update from JEE Sub
Committee Chair (Time boxed to maximum of 10 minutes) Consider subcommittee
recommendation to set the date on which a higher bar applies to opening new
issues on the Java EE spec to October 15, 2008. 6. Date of the next SCA-J
Face to Face (F2F) meeting Previously, the TC agreed to
have the next F2F in November 10th to 14th and
co-locate with the SCA-Bindings TC. Unfortunately, the
SCA-Bindings TC cannot do that week and want to know if we can move a week earlier (Nov
3rd to 7th) or a week later (Nov 17th to 21st) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00009.html 7. Web ballot for
sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-WD04 During the last meeting of
the sca-j TC on August 18, a motion was passed to hold a Web Ballot
for CD review and comment beginning Aug 25th ending Sept 1st. It seems
there was a misunderstanding about who would initiate this Web ballot,
and it did not take place. 8. Accepting new issues: JAVA-57: SCA Spring Client
and Implementation Specification uses an unacceptable namespace http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-57 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00081.html JAVA-58: SCA Spring C&I
Specification does not have a normative definition of how to calculate the
ComponentType of a SpringApplication context http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-58 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00082.html JAVA-59: SCA Spring C &
I specification does not state what happens when a Bean exposed as a service
implements multiple interfaces http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-59 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00084.html JAVA-60: Sharing Java
artifacts across contributions http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-60 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00109.html 9. Open issues discussion: JAVA-48 - @Callback
annotation does not feature in section on Interfaces http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-48 New Proposal http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00070.html Updated Proposals http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00086.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00079.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00083.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00087.html JAVA-42 - Incorrect examples
of methods annotated @Init and @Destroy http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-42 Close because of issue 37/44
changes that no longer restrict access modifiers http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00073.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00077.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00078.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00085.html JAVA-3 - Local services
expose implementation classes as their type http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-3 Should introduction of
@Local annotation (JAVA-3) affect the Semantics of an Unannotated Implementation http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00098.html JAVA-47: Missing description
of what the @EagerInit annotation does http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-47 Proposal in JIRA 10. AOB Straggler roll call 11. Adjourn --------------------------------------------------------------- Rotating scribe list: Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (0) Peter Walker Sun
Microsystems (1) Roberto Chinnici Sun
Microsystems (2) Peter Peshev SAP AG
(2) Ron Barack SAP AG
(3) Michael Beisiegel
IBM (3) Vamsavardhana Chillakuru IBM
(1) David Booz IBM (4) Anish Karmarkar Oracle
Corporation (4) Mike Edwards IBM (3) Sanjay Patil SAP AG (3) Ashok Malhotra Oracle
Corporation (3) Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software
Inc. (3) Martin Chapman Oracle
Corporation (3) Bryan Aupperle IBM (3) Vladimir Savchenko SAP AG
(1) Jim Marino Individual (4) Meeraj Kunnumpurath
Individual (1) [16:00] Simon Nash: you beat
me to it! [16:01] anonymous morphed
into Dave Booz [16:05] anonymous morphed
into Pradeep [16:06] Vamsi: Scribe: Vamsi [16:07] Vamsi: Topic: Agenda
bashing [16:07] Vamsi: No changes. [16:07] anonymous morphed
into anish [16:07] Vamsi: Topic:
Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s) [16:08] Vamsi: Minutes
approved unanimously [16:08] Vamsi: Topic:
Election of co-chair [16:09] Vamsi: One
nomination by Simon: Dave Booz [16:09] Vamsi: Objection
that Dave is needed for Policy work [16:12] Vamsi: Taking a vote
now. [16:12] anish dave 4
president [16:13] Vamsi: Micheal y,
Dave Booz y, Vamsi y, Mike y, Anish y, Jim y, Pradeep y, Mark y, Simon y [16:14] Vamsi: Dave Booz
elected as co-chair. Vote passed with 9 y, 0 n, 1 abstain. [16:14] Vamsi: Topic: Dial
in access numbers for the Conference Calls [16:15] Vamsi: AI: Dave Booz
to update the meeting details with conf call numbers. [16:15] Vamsi: Topic: Leaves
of Absence: [16:15] Vamsi: Mark
Combellack will be on LOA from September 22 to October 6 inclusive. [16:16] Vamsi: TC wishes
Mark all the best. [16:16] Vamsi: Topic: Review
action items [16:16] Vamsi: 2008-07-15-2:
[16:16] Vamsi: [16:16] Vamsi: 2008-07-15-4:
Chairs to produce schedule for spec completion with help from Anish [16:18] Vamsi: Action item -
complete [16:18] Vamsi: 2008-07-15-9:
MikeE to produce worked example of his proposal for JAVA-1, and to show the
invocation model [16:18] Vamsi: No update [16:18] Vamsi: 2008-07-24-2:
Simon to revise proposal for issue 49 based on today's discussion [16:18] Vamsi: Still pending [16:18] Vamsi: 2008-08-11-1:
Mark to send email requesting nominations for co-chair [16:18] Vamsi: Complete [16:18] Vamsi: 2008-08-11-2:
Editors to check with other specifications how the use of 'a' and 'an' when
referring to annotations. [16:19] Vamsi: Pending [16:19] Vamsi: Topic: Update
from JEE Sub Committee Chair [16:20] Vamsi: Simon: From
the SC meeting... SCA JEE Spec should not have the same deadline as the other
specs. Suggested date is Oct 15th. [16:21] Vamsi: Mike supports
Oct 15th deadline. [16:22] Vamsi: Mike motion
to have Oct 15th deadline. [16:22] Vamsi: Second by
Dave [16:23] Vamsi: 2/3rd
majority of the voting members to raise issues on SCA JEE Spec. [16:24] Ashok: +1 [16:24] Vamsi: Anish: Not
have any deadline as we just started. [16:25] Vamsi: Mike: What is
the implication of having no deadline? [16:26] Vamsi: Ashok
suggests to wait a while. [16:27] Vamsi: Mark: Leave
the deadline as Oct 15th for now and move later if required. [16:27] Vamsi: Simon: May
need 2/3rd majority for moving the deadline. [16:27] Mark Combellack:
Could we reword motion to say "that the SCA JEE is exempt from the September
15th deadline until oct 15th" [16:29] Vamsi: Anish:
Amendment to remove Oct 15th [16:29] Vamsi: from the
motion [16:30] Vamsi: seconded by
Ashok. [16:30] Vamsi: Amended
Motion - the SCA JEE is exempt from the September 15th deadline [16:30] Vamsi: Motion is
approved. [16:33] Vamsi: Plamen
volunteers to be chair for SCA JEE SC. [16:33] Vamsi: Mike: Plamen
will make a good chair for the SC. [16:33] Ashok: +1 [16:34] Vamsi: Mike: Motion
to make Plamen as SCA JEE SC. [16:34] Vamsi: Seconded by
Dave. [16:35] Vamsi: Plamen is the
SCA JEE SC Chair. Congratulations!! [16:35] Vamsi: Topic: Date
of the next SCA-J Face to Face (F2F) meeting [16:38] Vamsi: No change in
the dates - meeting will be in the week of November 10th to 14th [16:38] Vamsi: Meeting dates
11th, 12th and 13th. [16:40] Vamsi: SCA JEE SC
can meet on the 10th? [16:41] Vamsi: Anish: I
would rather not meet on Monday the 10th. [16:41] Vamsi: Simon: JEE
folks can meet on Tuesday the 11th first thing. [16:43] Vamsi: Simon: May
extend the meeting to Friday if required. [16:43] Vamsi: Ashok: Do we
need four days? [16:43] Vamsi: Mike: 3 days
more than enough. [16:45] Vamsi: Mark Motion
for SCA J Meeting on 11th, 12th and 13th Nov. [16:45] Vamsi: Mike seconds [16:46] Vamsi: Topic: Web
ballot for sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-WD04 [16:47] Vamsi: Simon:
Suggest a non-web ballot next Monday. [16:48] Vamsi: Mark: Web
ballot will give an opportunity to cast a vote without having to be in the
call. [16:49] Vamsi: Mark - Motion
to have a non-web ballot on 15th Sep. [16:49] Vamsi: Mike seconds [16:50] Vamsi: Motion
approved unanimously [16:50] Vamsi: Simon
requests the members to review and provide comments. [16:51] Vamsi: on
sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-WD04 [16:51] Vamsi: Topic:
Accepting new issues [16:51] Vamsi: JAVA-57: SCA
Spring Client and Implementation Specification uses an unacceptable namespace [16:52] Vamsi: Mike - Motion
to open the issue. Dave seconds. [16:53] Vamsi: Motion is
approved. [16:55] Vamsi: Mike - Motion
to accept the proposal written in JIRA for ISSUE 57 to resolve the issue. Dave
seconds. [16:55] Vamsi: Motion
approved. [16:56] Vamsi: JAVA-58: SCA
Spring C&I Specification does not have a normative definition of how to
calculate the ComponentType of a SpringApplication context [16:57] Vamsi: Mike - Motion
to open ISSUE 58. Dave Seconds. [16:57] Vamsi: Motion
approved. [16:57] Vamsi: JAVA-59: SCA
Spring C & I specification does not state what happens when a Bean exposed
as a service implements multiple interfaces [16:58] Vamsi: Mike - Motion
to open ISSUE 59. Dave seconds. [16:58] Vamsi: Motion
approved. [16:58] Vamsi: JAVA-60:
Sharing Java artifacts across contributions [16:59] Vamsi: Dave - Motion
to open ISSUE 60. Mark seconds. [16:59] Vamsi: Motion
approved. [17:00] Vamsi: Meeting
adjourned. |
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