Raw text of Sep 22nd meeting minutes

Dave Booz: agenda:- Roll Call

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j

- Appointment of scribe. List attached below

- Agenda bashing

- Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s)

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/29361/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202008-09-15.doc

1. Review action items:

2008-07-15-2: Vladimir to produce a proposal for JAVA-2

2008-07-15-9: MikeE to produce worked example of his proposal for JAVA-1, and to show the invocation model

2008-07-24-2: Simon to revise proposal for issue 49 based on today's discussion

2008-09-08-2: Everyone to review the SCA-J WD04 for ballot on the next call.

2008-09-15-1: Simon to produce specific references to the resolutions for missing issues 20, 40, 42, 43

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00079.html

2. Update from JEE Sub Committee Chair (Time boxed to maximum of 5 minutes)

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00077.html

3. Ballot for CD

During the last meeting of the sca-j TC on September 15th, a motion was passed to instruct the editors to prepare a new WD based on comments.

4. Accepting new issues:

JAVA-61: Describe the concurrency model for each scope

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-61

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00018.html

JAVA-62: Clarify what a Component Implementation can do with threads

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-62

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00024.html

JAVA-63: SCA Spring C & I specification does not state whether Constructor Injection should be supported

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-63

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00027.html

JAVA-64: SCA Spring C & I specification does not state the purpose of sca:composite element

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-64

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00028.html

JAVA-65: There is no lifecycle defined for SCA Components

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-65

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00032.html

JAVA-66: Should the definitions of the various Scopes be pushed up to the SCA-Assembly specification?

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-66

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00033.html

JAVA-67 Need normative rules for stateful callbacks

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-67

JAVA-68 Uniqueness of conversation IDs

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-68

JAVA-69 Misleading statement about lifetime of stateful callbacks

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-69

JAVA-70 ConversationAttributes on class or interface?

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-70

JAVA-71 Incorrect code in section 6.7.2 example

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-71

JAVA-72 Should not say callback ID is passed in reference parameters

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-72

JAVA-73 Incorrect reference to "original request"

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-73

JAVA-74 Clarify meaning of "should implement"

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-74

JAVA-75 Incorrect description of @Scope annotation default

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-75

JAVA-76 Incorrect code in section 6.7.4 examples

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-76

JAVA-77 A remotable service SHOULD be translatable into a generally accepted standard for a service, such as WSDL 1.1 or WSDL 2.0

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-77

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00059.html

JAVA-78 Need API to set EPR and for a reference invocation

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-78

JAVA-79 Missing word "type" for "return type" in CAA spec - sec 3.1

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-79

JAVA-80 Ambiguous description of method for @OneWay annotation

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-80

JAVA-81 Normative references to SCA Spec docs point to v1.00 docs

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-81

6. Open issues discussion:

JAVA-48 - @Callback annotation does not feature in section on Interfaces

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-48

New Proposal

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00070.html

Updated Proposals

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00086.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00079.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00083.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00087.html

JAVA-42 - Incorrect examples of methods annotated @Init and @Destroy

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-42

Close because of issue 37/44 changes that no longer restrict access modifiers

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00073.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00077.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00078.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00085.html

JAVA-3 - Local services expose implementation classes as their type

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-3

Should introduction of @Local annotation (JAVA-3) affect the Semantics of an Unannotated Implementation

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00098.html

JAVA-47: Missing description of what the @EagerInit annotation does

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-47

Proposal in JIRA

7. AOB

Straggler roll call

8. Adjourn

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Rotating scribe list:

Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (0)

Peter Walker Sun Microsystems (1)

Roberto Chinnici Sun Microsystems (2)

Peter Peshev SAP AG (2)

Ron Barack SAP AG (3)

Michael Beisiegel IBM (3)

Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (4)

Mike Edwards IBM (3)

Sanjay Patil SAP AG (3)

Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (3)

Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software Inc. (3)

Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (3)

Bryan Aupperle IBM (3)

Vladimir Savchenko SAP AG (1)

Jim Marino Individual (4)

Meeraj Kunnumpurath Individual (1)

Vamsavardhana Chillakuru IBM (2)

Simon Nash (1)

Mike Edwards: VERY posh music on hold

Vamsi: The India toll free number is not working for me

anonymous morphed into Pradeep

Pradeep: Scribe: Pradeep

Pradeep: Agenda Bashing: No changes

Pradeep: Can't approve meeting as we are not quorate.

Pradeep: On to action items

Pradeep: 2008-07-24-2 - Done

Pradeep: 2008-09-15-1 - Done

Vamsi: upto section 6.1.2

Pradeep: Update from JEE SC - Reviewing WD Specification. Just started section 6.

Vamsi: reviewed up to section 6.1.2

Pradeep: On to new issues.

Pradeep: Can't open new issues as we are not quorate.

Vamsi: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00041.html

Pradeep: Dave to make JIRA entry for the new issue above

Pradeep: On to topic 6 of agenda - open issues discussion

Pradeep: Action item for Simon to writeup latest proposal for JAVA-25

Pradeep: Simon presenting his proposal to JAVA-48

Vamsi: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00086.html

Pradeep: Mike Edwards - Let's us go with Simon's proposal in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00086.html

Pradeep: Action item for Simon to send updated proposal for JAVA-48.

Pradeep: Issue JAVA-42 has been resolved.

Pradeep: Discussion on JAVA-3

Pradeep: Action item for Simon to send updated proposal for JAVA-3.

Pradeep: Michael Beisiegel Joins. Meeting is quorate.

Vamsi: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/29361/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202008-09-15.doc

Pradeep: Minutes of meeting on Sept 15th accepted without objections.

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Dave Booz: section 2.3.s: A composite scoped implementation may also specify eager initialization using the @EagerInit annotation. When marked for eager initialization, the composite scoped instance is created when its containing component is started. If a method is marked with the @Init annotation, it is called when the instance is created.

Pradeep1: Discussion on JAVA-47

Mike Edwards: The @EagerInit annotation is used to annotate the Java class of a Composite scoped implementation for eager initialization. When marked for eager initialization, the composite scoped instance is created when its containing component is started.

Pradeep: Mike Edwards moves to resolve issue JAVA-47 with above text

Pradeep: Simon Nash seconds.

Mike Edwards: COMPOSITE

Pradeep: Simon prose to ammend to change first occurrence of Composite to COMPOSITE.

Pradeep: Mike Edwards seconds.

Pradeep: s/prose/proposes

Pradeep: Ammendment accepted without objections.

Mike Edwards: The @EagerInit annotation is used to annotate the Java class of a COMPOSITE scoped implementation for eager initialization. When marked for eager initialization, the COMPOSITE scoped instance is created when its containing component is started.

Mike Edwards: Update the specification to add the following text at after line 1208 of the @EagerInit section in Working Draft 03

Mike Edwards: The @EagerInit annotation is used to annotate the Java class of a COMPOSITE scoped implementation for eager initialization. When marked for eager initialization, the composite scoped instance is created when its containing component is started.

Vamsi: The description goes at line 1222

Vamsi: of WD 04.

Pradeep: Ammended motion accepted without objections. Issue JAVA-47 resolved.

Vamsi: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00082.html

Pradeep: Back to issue JAVA-48

Pradeep: Simon makes motion to resolve issue JAVA-48 with text in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00082.html to be inserted after line 202

Pradeep: in WD-04

Simon Nash: 3.4 @Callback

A callback interface is declared by using a @Callback annotation on a Java

service interface, with the Java Class object of the callback interface as a

parameter. There is another form of the @Callback annotation, without any

parameters, that specifies callback injection for a setter method or

a field of an implementation.

Pradeep: Vamsi seconds

Pradeep: Motion accepted unanimously without objection.

Pradeep: Meeting adjourned.

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