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Subject: Re: Appeal of the OASIS decision on SCA-J package names

On behalf of all the appellants, we thank you and the board for a timely resolution and a very satisfactory result.

Dave Booz
STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
"Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093

Inactive hide details for Eduardo Gutentag ---01/13/2009 07:33:43 PM---The domain oasisopen.org is now owned by OASIS (as you cEduardo Gutentag ---01/13/2009 07:33:43 PM---The domain oasisopen.org is now owned by OASIS (as you can verify by going to http://oasisopen.org).


Eduardo Gutentag <eduardo.gutentag@oasis-open.org>


Simon Nash <NASH@uk.ibm.com>, Michael Beisiegel/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, David Booz/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS, martin.chapman@oracle.com, mcombellack@avaya.com, Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com, jim.marino@gmail.com, michael.rowley@activevos.com, ashok.malhotra@oracle.com, Mike Edwards <mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com>


mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org, sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org, tc-admin@oasis-open.org


01/13/2009 07:33 PM


Re: Appeal of the OASIS decision on SCA-J package names

The domain oasisopen.org is now owned by OASIS (as you can verify
by going to

This matter is therefore settled and the appeal closed, since the
TC can now use org.oasisopen with no qualms whatsoever as the prefix
for their Java package names.

On 12/31/2008 05:15 PM, Eduardo Gutentag wrote:
> As regards the appeal filed on May 5, 2008, subsequently suspended
> and then resumed on December 12, 2008 by the appellants listed in
> the To: line of this message (to whom I've added Mike Edwards, the
> only one who confirmed that he wanted to be added to the original
> list of appellants):
> The appellants write
> (
> "Using a package prefix without owning the corresponding domain does
> not follow Java conventions and industry best practice.  Section 7.7
> of the Java Language Specification says: "You form a unique package
> name by first having (or belonging to an organization that has) an
> Internet domain name, such as sun.com. You then reverse this name,
> component by component, to obtain, in this example, com.sun, and use
> this as a prefix for your package names, using a convention developed
> within your organization to further administer package names."
> TC Administration, on the other hand, quotes another sentence
> *in the same* Java Language Specification, second edition, section 7.7
> (
> "If the domain name contains a hyphen, or any other special character
> not allowed in an identifier (3.8), convert it into an underscore."
> Since both quotes come from the same source, and both parties agree
> as to the correctness of at least one of them, we should assume
> that both are correct and as normative as any given specification
> can be in this case.
> So, taking the first quote, we note that we do not own org.osoa,
> so it should not be considered as a solution at all. We do have,
> however, an Internet domain name, oasis-open.org, which reversed
> (as specified in the first quote) renders "org.oasis-open".
> This, according to the first quote, should be the prefix used in
> the package.
> However, since section 3.8 excludes the use of hyphen in package
> names, the second quote provides the correct way of representing it,
> that is, "org.oasis_open"
> Thus, after both quotes are applied, org.osoa is inappropriate,
> and the prefix to be used is therefore org.oasis_open
> *However* -- we do note the strong dislike expressed by the
> appellants to the use of underbars in package names (either because
> they may be hard to type or because some software may be buggy)
> even though it's part of the same recommendation they otherwise
> quote with approval.
> We therefore direct OASIS Staff to investigate the possibility of
> acquiring the domain name oasisopen.org, and to report to us by
> January 31, 2009, as to the possibility and cost. We are aware that
> such an investigation has already started, and we hope this comes to
> fruition. But if it becomes apparent that acquiring such domain name
> (or an appropriate alternative that can be used for purposes other
> than those of the SCA-J TC) is either impossible or too expensive,
> the TC will be directed at that time to use the package name prefix
> org.oasis_open.
> The appellants should remember that the above determination can be
> appealed too, as specified in

Eduardo Gutentag
+1 510-550-4616

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